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I'm confused. What is this rating out of 109 stuff?

Is it a joke? It is terribly confusing if it isn't

I'm confused.

Sorry Dan. Instructions for use are quite simple, and you will probably kick yourself for not working it out yourself. The higher the score, the more I liked it. Hope that helps with the confusion.

What is this rating out of 109 stuff?

Some rate out of 5, some rate out of 10, some rate out of 20, some rate out of 100, some leading edge writers rate out of 109

Some who rate out of 100 rate more 'easily' than others. A tanzar 95 is a parker 100?? a halliday 95 is a campbell 98? a danny 90 is an attilla 97?

As I have said before, lets not kid ourselves that the world operates on one universal faultless rating system.

Is it a joke?

Hmm, I prefer to think of it as satire

707 wrote:Are these Puriri Hills coming to Oz? I'd sure like to run them past Blacktongues.

They have just started to come into the country....send me an PM if you'd like the distributors details and he'll be able to put you on to a stockist. I'm catching up with him next week to have a look at the Puriri Hills range and new offerings from Passage Rock, Kennedy and Bilancia....looking forward to it.

yes there is at least one outfit in aussie that is doing them

also puriri hills website www.puririhills.co.nz has a very good international door to door service. Dont know how cost stacks up next to buying retail in aussie. You also need 8 bottle min, so depends on qty you want

DaveB wrote: They have just started to come into the country....send me an PM if you'd like the distributors details and he'll be able to put you on to a stockist. I'm catching up with him next week to have a look at the Puriri Hills range and new offerings from Passage Rock, Kennedy and Bilancia....looking forward to it.

Noice... great excuse for an offline!! where are WE going for the tasting?!

c
PS: yeah i shared a 15pack of Puriri about 4weeks ago should arrive any day now... looking forward to them!!

Christo wrote:

DaveB wrote: They have just started to come into the country....send me an PM if you'd like the distributors details and he'll be able to put you on to a stockist. I'm catching up with him next week to have a look at the Puriri Hills range and new offerings from Passage Rock, Kennedy and Bilancia....looking forward to it.

Noice... great excuse for an offline!! where are WE going for the tasting?!

c
PS: yeah i shared a 15pack of Puriri about 4weeks ago should arrive any day now... looking forward to them!!

Noice!..... I believe a tasting is being organised in Sydney.....slated for mid-October with Judy Fowler from Puriri Hills looking at all the wines from 2002 - 2006.

a vertical will be a great experience. early vintages had their failings, but the progression year on year is very evident

SueNZ wrote:So how long are you in Akl for?

Was in Auckland for three nights. Just returned from a week on the West Coast and Otago.

Craig, I PM'd offline and other such ideas a while back, with little response! I would have had some time on the Friday night, as it turns out.

Cheers,

hmmm, last pm in my inbox from you says Dec 2nd 2006. Oh well, not to worry it wont be our last chance to do something!! With all these cheap fares floating around we are thinking south island trip is on the radar.

Actually we are pretty pathetic at organising offlines in NZ. In fact ive been to more offlines in Australia than in NZ!! My feeble attempt to organise one for next weekend hasnt really worked. Looks like its turned into a couple of quiet ones with Lance and Dave before Wine NZ over a home cooked meal.

Im planning on going to the Scenic Cellars 2005 Bordeaux tasting in Taupo next year. We should get our act together and plan something around that if people are keen.

I tried a bottle of this stuff on the weekend. (The poverty edition)

It's quite good, certainly better than a garden variety Australian Merlot blend.


The mouth feel was the highlight, quite silken, not dissimilar to Chateau Figeac, (of which I've had a couple of bittle recently) however the overall taste is not in the same league. But to be fair nor is it in the same price range.

Will have to try the two upmarket versions and see how they compare.

The mouth feel was the highlight, quite silken, not dissimilar to Chateau Figeac, (of which I've had a couple of bittle recently) however the overall taste is not in the same league. But to be fair nor is it in the same price range.

05 Puriri Estate $32.50. 05 Ch Figeac $250ish en prem (even the 2001 is $160). Yes not quite the same price range!!

The 'Reserve' ($50-60) wine is the qpr sweetspot in my opinion. Its definitely worth another $20 on the 'Estate'. 'Pope' is better but value for money-wise its not as good value

A right bank bdx lover like yourself? is far more likely to appreciate these wines than boiled jam guzzlers

I have a friend bringing the 05 estate over for dinner tomorrow. Be interesting to have another look at it

Had the 2005 Puriri Hills Estate tonight with plenty of decanting and a few minutes in the sink to warm it.

I have drunk this 4x now. Twice I have been very very impressed and have rated it as high as 98/109 on my superior 'rawnsley' scale (95-99 being gold medal teritory).

Tonight it didnt reach these lofty heights. It showed good power through the palate, a fine refined texture but the tannins seemed to end quite bitter and the acid was still a tad high. Tonight I rate it 90-91/109 scraping in for consideration as a silver.

Having said the above I have to reveal that the two ladies at the table rated it a lot higher than i did and were extremely positive. They were both very impressed. Remembering this is the third tier wine from 2005.

In my opinion though the reserve edition is definitely where the value for money is. For another $15-20 you are getting a major step up in quality. I would certainly advise people wishing to try this wineries wares to splash out on the reserve or stay at home. This is certainly where my buying has mainly gone.

At $32.50 for the estate version I am still thinking there are other wines that may offer more. Im thinking 05 Awatea, 05 Craggy GG Merlot...?? Depends what styles spin your wheels I guess. I certainly cant see how 05 Coleraine has been rated less next to this wine by BC in GWT mag based on this experience.

Wine is a moving feast, hard to pin down, hard to make lists, hard to set scores in stone



C

Craig(NZ) wrote: Actually we are pretty pathetic at organising offlines in NZ. In fact ive been to more offlines in Australia than in NZ!! My feeble attempt to organise one for next weekend hasnt really worked. Looks like its turned into a couple of quiet ones with Lance and Dave before Wine NZ over a home cooked meal.

Once my cellar arrives (it's currently on a ship on the high seas somewhere between London and Auckland) and has had time to settle down I'd be up for something. Keep me in mind.

Martin