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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:12 pm
by Christo
Okay, little embarrased to ask.... but i was hoping you could explain how the offline works.

Oviously a bunch of forumites (with or without partners) get together for some good food, bloody great wine & even better conversation.

I assume everyone brings a bottle to share, But i notice that with the JH shiraz there is mention of paying?! :?

Is this the case with all the wines?... or just special bottles?!

Am looking to start a sydney offline so all info appreciated

Many thanks

Christo

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:24 pm
by markg
Hi Christo,

Yeah, offline is just forum members getting together for a drink and food.

The Kalleske Johann Georg is just something special that I organised with Troy Kalleske for this night. In addition to the mandatory "Great" wine that everyone brings to share, Troy offered to sell the group of us a single bottle of it so we could try it and not have to dip into our single bottles some of us got from the mailing list.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:34 pm
by Christo
Thanks Mark, enjoy... let us know how it went.

cheers

christo

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 5:02 pm
by JamieBahrain
Gents

Yep I'm down for the Johann's. There is a dilema as to when to consume in terms of the line up.

I will ask Troy tomorrow.

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:25 am
by n4sir
markg wrote:Ian,

Troy Kalleske specifically made this bottle available for us to try and I think it might be a bit rude if we didn't open it in the spirit it was intended for :wink:


Well if it's considered a bit rude not to open it and try it, I guess I should put my hand up for the Johann too! :wink:
(I guess Steve will have to be content with a 70ml share of the bottle now :cry: )

JamieBahrain wrote:Gents

Yep I'm down for the Johann's. There is a dilema as to when to consume in terms of the line up.

I will ask Troy tomorrow.


As a guess it would have to be the last of the reds wouldn't it? The latest vintage of the others I've heard so far is 1998, so unless there's a Grange in the mix I suspect anything after will be overwhelmed.

I'm guessing it could be more of a dilemma where the 1990 St Henri should be in the tasting order. On the vintages I've heard it could well be the first (non-sparkling) red, which could be less than ideal.

Cheers
Ian

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:03 am
by KMP
markg wrote:Hi Christo,

Yeah, offline is just forum members getting together for a drink and food.

The Kalleske Johann Georg is just something special that I organised with Troy Kalleske for this night. In addition to the mandatory "Great" wine that everyone brings to share, Troy offered to sell the group of us a single bottle of it so we could try it and not have to dip into our single bottles some of us got from the mailing list.


If I strap together a few straws and poke them out over the Pacific can I get a taste too? I'll pay the going rate. :D

Mike

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:08 am
by 707
Bugger off Mike, you just come and live here like the rest of us :-)

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:23 am
by KMP
Pffftt! (Oh, sorry wrong forum, and its probably spelt incorrectly anyway.)

Mike

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:33 pm
by JamieBahrain
The Johann's is definately the concluding wine of the night.

Troy was very courteous to prove the point with a tasting today of the 03 Johann's. :D

I also tried the Clarry's White- sold out.

Clarry's red- very close to being sold out. Not sure how much Auswine has left.

03 Shiraz- sold out

03 Reserve Grenache- 2 bottle limit for mailing order. 1915 vines, low yields and the most impressive Australian grenache I have had in a while. I am a Rhonist too and did not find any Pepsi Cola like nuances.

Troy is a real gentleman too. Extended terrific hospitality including a Johann's tasting, aswell as a good deal of patience answering my parents questions.

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:45 pm
by Gavin Trott
JamieBahrain wrote:
Clarry's red- very close to being sold out. Not sure how much Auswine has left.

Troy is a real gentleman too. Extended terrific hospitality including a Johann's tasting, aswell as a good deal of patience answering my parents questions.


Troy is most definitely a gentleman. I have stock of Clarrys left, quite a bit actually, and its good wine, and great at the price especially!

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:09 am
by KMP
707 wrote:Bugger off Mike, you just come and live here like the rest of us :-)


Might happen - just found out the bloody tenant in Lyndoch in two weeks in arrears with the rent!! :evil: :evil:

Mike

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:42 am
by Maximus
JamieBahrain wrote:03 Reserve Grenache- 2 bottle limit for mailing order. 1915 vines, low yields and the most impressive Australian grenache I have had in a while. I am a Rhonist too and did not find any Pepsi Cola like nuances.

Jamie,

How does this compare with the Noon equivalent (Solaire or Eclipse)? Same league, similar styles?

Cheers,

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:52 am
by markg
Maximus wrote:
JamieBahrain wrote:03 Reserve Grenache- 2 bottle limit for mailing order. 1915 vines, low yields and the most impressive Australian grenache I have had in a while. I am a Rhonist too and did not find any Pepsi Cola like nuances.

Jamie,

How does this compare with the Noon equivalent (Solaire or Eclipse)? Same league, similar styles?

Cheers,


For a start the Kalleske is a straight Grenache whereas the Eclipse is a blend. The Kalleske has wonderful savoury foundations that are just wonderful.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:52 am
by JamieBahrain
Max

I have only ever had a single bottle of 98 Noons Eclipse and a tasting of the Kalleske Old Vines grenache 03.

Hard to compare over time and considering the age difference, but would have to say the Noons had an appealing silky-velvet texture with masses of ripe fruit meshed in there.

The Kalleske a different beast, again in youth, vey big and bold with flavour profiles that build in the mouth and carry on. I was impressed and I am a Rhonist by preferrence- although well aware this style of grenache ( big & ripe & Parker etc ) is not as uncommon in the Rhone as some Aussie forum contributors would have us believe.