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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:38 pm
by action2096
Glad to see that my post had generated some discussion and i think everyone has some valid points.

Personally i think i'll probably be topping out at the 300-400 bottle mark (still have some way to go yet) and i use a similar rationale to other posters

1. Room - 2 Bed unit does not = large cellar potential :(
2. Consumption. I plan to drink 1-2 good bottles per week so once i'm up at the 400 hundred mark i reckon i'm covered for 4-6 years so long as i continue to top up only keeping a few select wines with longer potential

Finally one other thing that hit me is do i really want to wait 20+years to drink a bottle of wine??? Probably not so therefore i try and buy bottles that peak anywhere between 3-10 years.

Can't imagine the frustration of pulling out that circa 1980 grange that you've been hoarding only to find its bloody corked !!!

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:47 pm
by bigkid
******* Offending link removed **********

No, Guest (next post), I had no idea - just trying to be helpful - I had just come across the post Graeme was referring to.

Apologies for breach.

Regards,

Allan

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:10 pm
by Guest
Allan, did you know by posting a link to a competitor website is commiting a cardinal sin :?: :twisted:

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:19 pm
by TORB
Guest,

Alan is nw so he doesnt know about the unwritten rules.

The following are pictures from Jacques cellar



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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:22 pm
by Stonewell
TORB, can you believed it :?: I posted a link to your site in "the other" forum and the post got NUKED!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:40 am
by TORB
Stonewell wrote:TORB, can you believed it :?: I posted a link to your site in "the other" forum and the post got NUKED!


I guess that makes me special. :wink: I think nuking links to my site says more about them than it does about me. Its not like I sell wine or have a forum, so I am not competition, just an "information" site. Guess they don't like the information I offer. :)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:03 am
by Guest
TORB wrote:
Stonewell wrote:TORB, can you believed it :?: I posted a link to your site in "the other" forum and the post got NUKED!


I guess that makes me special. :wink: I think nuking links to my site says more about them than it does about me. Its not like I sell wine or have a forum, so I am not competition, just an "information" site. Guess they don't like the information I offer. :)


And I guess having a link to their site that doesn't work makes you childish.

Bob Chapman

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:17 am
by Red Bigot
Anonymous wrote:
TORB wrote:
Stonewell wrote:TORB, can you believed it :?: I posted a link to your site in "the other" forum and the post got NUKED!


I guess that makes me special. :wink: I think nuking links to my site says more about them than it does about me. Its not like I sell wine or have a forum, so I am not competition, just an "information" site. Guess they don't like the information I offer. :)


And I guess having a link to their site that doesn't work makes you childish.

Bob Chapman


Bob, If you mean the link to *Forum on Ric's site, they changed the forum address a fair while back, I guess no one has used the link or complained if they did. Thanks for the charitable interpretation :-(.

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:15 pm
by Petaluma
Was just reading Torbs site did you guys not taste Stantons Jacks Block Shiraz during your Rutherglen trip or did i miss it?

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:20 pm
by Red Bigot
Petaluma wrote:Was just reading Torbs site did you guys not taste Stantons Jacks Block Shiraz during your Rutherglen trip or did i miss it?


We didn't taste it, it was sold out, unreleased vintage wasn't offered.

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:38 pm
by TORB
Anonymous wrote:
And I guess having a link to their site that doesn't work makes you childish.

Bob Chapman


Dear Bob,

Thank you for bringing this matter to my attention in such a kind, thoughtful and considerate manner.

Like Brian said, that link was valid when I put it up and no one complained that is was no loger valid. I have more important things to think about than links that were posted many months ago. In consideration of your wishes, the link has been updated as it is of such personal importance to you, that you had point it out here publically, rather than letting me know by email.

Thankyou also for your cheap person pot shot, its gratifying to know that I still am unable to please all of the people all of the time.

And for the record, there are two other old links that don't work there too, Devine Magazine and West Cost Wine Network; I guess they must think I am childish too. :shock: Now if you will excuse me, I will just go sit in the corner with my dunce cap on. :roll:

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:21 pm
by Guest
TORB wrote:
Stonewell wrote:TORB, can you believed it :?: I posted a link to your site in "the other" forum and the post got NUKED!


I guess that makes me special. :wink: I think nuking links to my site says more about them than it does about me. Its not like I sell wine or have a forum, so I am not competition, just an "information" site. Guess they don't like the information I offer. :)


Ric

because of course this isn't a cheap shot is it?

Please spare me the indignation of your later post

Bob Chapman

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:20 am
by TORB
Anonymous wrote:Ric

because of course this isn't a cheap shot is it?

Please spare me the indignation of your later post

Bob Chapman


No Bob, Its not a cheap shot; it's the truth! Links to my site from here, WLDG, WCWN, the UK Wine Forum, Strats, Wine Fanatic, Winepros and Wine Spectator are all happily left there; none of those feel the need to nuke links to my site. And some of those like (WCWN for example) have very strong rules about links.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:14 am
by KMP
I can't see what the problem is in putting links in a post. OK, so some might lead to inappropriate sites and others might be to direct competitors. But a link to Ric's home page is neither, it actually has useful information. And as he has links to other pages you might get to somewhere else that is informative, and so on it goes. Follow your mouse and you will definitely end up in new places. That's why its called the web! And after your search you might even post a link about one or two of those sites and if they are worth their salt they will be monitoring their traffic and might come and check things out and this site might grow, Gavin might get more business and...... Oh wait is that why they nixed TORB's post? They don't want anymore business!! :roll:

A forum without links won't attract attention - its just a place for......wait for it......people sitting around talking ....

Mike

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:26 am
by Guest
Anonymous wrote:
Ric

Please spare me the indignation of your later post

Bob Chapman


Nice apology for your first, mean-spirited, post, Bob :-( Maybe now is the time to give up before you demean yourself any further.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:49 pm
by Adam
Maybe the post was nuked for a different reason...who knows, who cares. Surely its not related to how big your cellar is?

Seems that intra-forum criticism is somewhat of a one way flow. Eg happens here but not there. Its ugly and not required.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:27 pm
by Guest
Thanks Brian and Ric for the feedback. Your suggestions make sense, and I have started to arrange my cellar by vintage, by winery.

However, I have been reading a few books about cellaring wine and how to arrange your collection and a few of the American authors suggest arranging by style of wine - i.e. light bodied to full bodied wines - as this helps you select a wine with your meal.

Although a valid point, this method just doesn't appear feasible to me as many of the bottles in my collection I have (a) not tasted or (b) have tasted but not for some time, so sorting by style would require much guess work, and therefore mean nothing. But that's just me.

Thanks again
AJ

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:30 pm
by Andrew Jordan
Sorry, that was me.

AJ