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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:51 pm
by TORB
Anonymous wrote: 98 was a super vintage.Just go and enjoy some for yourself albeit alot are still too youthfull.Its amazing how its often fashionable to knock the best.I bet you are anti-American too.
And a number of them are not progressing as well as expected! The vintage is nowhere near as great as forecast and there there will be many dissapointments, but there will be some great wines too.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:09 pm
by Guest
Could say that with any good vintage though
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:10 pm
by Guest
Could say that with any good vintage though
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:20 pm
by TORB
Anonymous wrote:Could say that with any good vintage though
The difference is that was 98 was called by many pundits as the vinatge of the centuary (clearly it is not) and a much higher (than normal) rate of wines have not developed as well as people would have origionaly predicted.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:28 pm
by Guest
I've gone thru numerous of '98 from top to the bottom. Great upon released. Half of them holding, the rest losing steam
Pity those wankers who invested big time.
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:24 pm
by camw
Any further sightings of the St Peters '02 ? I haven't seen any around my regular places in Sydney....
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:31 pm
by 707
Yet to find any 98s falling apart but then again I'm yet to broach many of my sixpacks.
Which 98s don't foumites think are going anywhere?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:46 am
by JamieBahrain
None in Hong Kong yet.
Sorry to sidetrack- how is the 99? I put a few bottles in my Dad's cellar and told him to have a look at them in 07+.
I noted a few mixed bag reports on the vintage after I had purchased- though was relieved it wasn't the Brett bomb.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:06 am
by TORB
707 wrote:Yet to find any 98s falling apart but then again I'm yet to broach many of my sixpacks.
Which 98s don't foumites think are going anywhere?
A few that come to mind:-
Nine Popes
Fox Creek Reserve Shiraz
Gartner Cab
Tintara Shiraz
Mitchelton Print (possibly)
Lehmann Eight Songs
Mountain Blue
Saltram No 1
Shottesbrooke Eliza
Tollana 222
Veritas Hanisch
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:50 am
by Guest
TORB,
Agree on the No 1 and Eight Songs. Mine are off to auction.
Mike
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:58 am
by Guest
Why include Mitchelton Print? Mine are drinking beautifully and imho taste as if they have years ahead of them. Earlier vintages are also drinking well and I don't think they changed their approach in 98?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:22 am
by also a guest
Guest wrote:Why include Mitchelton Print? Mine are drinking beautifully and imho taste as if they have years ahead of them. Earlier vintages are also drinking well and I don't think they changed their approach in 98?
Agree, 98 Print is a very good drink. 93 Print is still drinking very well.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:49 am
by TORB
IMO, based on the last bottle of 98 Print I recently tried, it will best be drunk over the next 3 years. Its OK, it just won't last as long as many previous vintages.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:53 pm
by guest8
TORB wrote:707 wrote:Yet to find any 98s falling apart but then again I'm yet to broach many of my sixpacks.
Which 98s don't foumites think are going anywhere?
A few that come to mind:-
Nine Popes
Fox Creek Reserve Shiraz
Gartner Cab
Tintara Shiraz
Mitchelton Print (possibly)
Lehmann Eight Songs
Mountain Blue
Saltram No 1
Shottesbrooke Eliza
Tollana 222
Veritas Hanisch
you wasted your money on all those wines ?
or have you sold them all at auction and now talking the vintage down
most of my '98s have delivered as expected so far, you must keep your expectations down in this game, never listen to the hype, and I always taste before I buy
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:24 pm
by guest99
guest8 wrote:you wasted your money on all those wines ?
or have you sold them all at auction and now talking the vintage down
most of my '98s have delivered as expected so far, you must keep your expectations down in this game, never listen to the hype, and I always taste before I buy
"all those wines" - probably a pretty small proportion of TORB's purchases.
I never make any buying mistakes when I'm anonymous either...
