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Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 10:18 pm
by mjs
phillisc wrote:Two, which I cannot split
Being at Wynns cellar door the day the 82 JR was released and the 55 Michael that I drunk in 1984.
Cheers
Craig
Craig, I was at a wine show at the Exhibition Building in Melbourne tasting and buying the '82 JR at or not long after release, must have been '84 or '85, didn't buy enough ..... haha
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:06 pm
by Diddy
For me it was a spontaneous cellar door tasting at Chateau de Marsannay in Burgundy. Can still recall the earthiness of the wines to this day.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:20 am
by mjs
One other stand out earlier occasion. Bristol Wine Show in 81 when I was living in London for a period. Masterclass vertical tasting of 1970's Ch Giscours led by Steven Spurrier I think. Just a fantastic introduction to Bordeaux.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:09 am
by Luke W
1st wine I bought was a gift for a mate who drove us around the Barossa - a 1972 Wolf Blass Black that cost the grand sum of $5 and then popped it's cork in the car (which was probably 60 degrees C)! The 1st wine I loved was McWilliams Sauterne goon that we drank while playing cards in 1972 on a weekly basis. The 1st proper wines that I liked were Liebfraumilch and Blue Nun or Mateus Rose and then in 1978 I got hooked on 1975 Mount Pleasant Philip. At about the same time my wife's uncle told me i knew nothing about wine which made me determined to know as much as i could. I then used to stop at the fine wine counter at Bartletts liquor barn at the Gold Coast and Danny O'Sullivan used to ply me with all sorts of great wines. I think the wine that turned me into a soak and I've been trying to find the same greatness in every glass since was the 1955 Grange that I had in 1983 - it was sublime and still the one of the greatest sensory experiences of my life.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:18 am
by michel
DJ wrote:1954 Tulloch Private Dry Red - I would have been 15 given it was opened for Dad's 40th (okay more than 30 years ago). It was amazing complex.
For the cellaring addiction 1986 Wynns Cab Sav - last one drunk last year - looked great especially the mixed storage it had put up with
I have heard of legend Tulloch Private Dry Reds
never tried one
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 9:49 am
by DJ1980
Gee. Thinking back the first wine that comes to mind is a 1998 Penfolds Bin 707. I think that was the wine that made me sit back in my chair. I was 20 at the time.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 10:54 am
by TiggerK
TiggerK wrote:Mine was ....... a Bin 707 1998.
DJ1980 wrote:Gee. Thinking back the first wine that comes to mind is a 1998 Penfolds Bin 707. I think that was the wine that made me sit back in my chair. I was 20 at the time.
I was 30, otherwise Snap!
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:23 pm
by RockyRed
Luke W wrote:1st wine I bought was a gift for a mate who drove us around the Barossa - a 1972 Wolf Blass Black that cost the grand sum of $5 .....McWilliams Sauterne goon that we drank while playing cards in 1972 .....Liebfraumilch and Blue Nun or Mateus Rose and then in 1978 I got hooked on 1975 Mount Pleasant Philip....... the fine wine counter at Bartletts liquor barn ..... the 1955 Grange that I had in 1983.
Luke, I am stunned at how much of your 'experience' I relate to.
The ice-cold McWilliams Sauterne Flagons with cards, the Blue Nun and Mateus Rose, and the Mt Pleasant Philip. I shopped at the Bartletts Barn outlet in Rockhampton, and my first great wine was one of the many Grange Hermitage vintages that I bought for about $20. in the mid '70s.
I still reside in the area so you are almost a "neighbour".
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 10:20 pm
by Cloth Ears
Sort of a one-two punch. Dad had a couple of bottles with yellow labels, one was a 1959 and the other a 1961. I think it was the 1959 that was the sweeter one (although not very, to my teenage taste-buds in the late 1970's) and the other was dry. Obviously both Hugel and tasted within a couple of weeks of each other.
Necessarily, I couldn't actually buy any myself for a few years, but I did manage to obtain a 1976 Ignatius from Seven Hill for my father, who duly kept it for 10 years (as specified to me by the winemaker - Brother John?) and the first ever bottling of Durus Linctus from one of the plethora of Hardy's in the McLaren Vale valley, in that era. I think it was called Ben Ellen(?) at that point.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 5:04 pm
by BrandonS
I've had a couple of defining wine moments..
One of the first was when I was 18 or 19 and spent big money (for a 19 yo) and took the girlfriend of the time to Lincontro's in Nth Sydney when they were open and managed by the original owners.
We had a '98 bin 407 with a great Italian dinner, it was awesome.
A recent discovery for me is aged Vouvray, after drinking plenty of the '05 Marc Bredif when it was available at Dan Murphy's I tried the '88 at The Dining Room in Sydney's Park Hyatt...mind blown!
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 10:34 am
by Chuck
Some may giggle. A Seaview 1978 McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon with a mate in a French restaurant in Brisvegas around 1980. A true lightbulb moment. Not sure if it was the food, company or both but it turned my head in the right direction.
Passing it's old home in McLaren Vale on regular trips there always brings a smile. They made some good solid wines at very reasonable prices and did a few upmarket wines that absolutely floated my boat. Just can't remember the labels. Anyone remember these?
And not to forget the Penfolds 1986 Bin 389 soon after we moved to Adelaide in 1990. Thought buying a 6 pack was going super long until they ran out and realising there was none left to buy. Now its by the case or 3.
Carl
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 10:54 am
by n4sir
Chuck wrote:Some may giggle. A Seaview 1978 McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon with a mate in a French restaurant in Brisvegas around 1980. A true lightbulb moment. Not sure if it was the food, company or both but it turned my head in the right direction.
Passing it's old home in McLaren Vale on regular trips there always brings a smile. They made some good solid wines at very reasonable prices and did a few upmarket wines that absolutely floated my boat. Just can't remember the labels. Anyone remember these?
Edwards and Chaffey/Section 353 were the upmarket labels they tried to introduce.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:18 pm
by Duncan Disorderly
Like many previous posters I've had a few defining moments, but there are four formative wines that really come to mind.
The first was the 1986 Wynns Shiraz (or the Hermitage as it was known then). My father had bought several cases on the advice of a mate and occasionally I'd knock one off. Being 17 or so I was generally interested in bingeing, but one night I remember having one that had had time to breathe and it was really good. It opened my eyes up to what a wine could taste like when treated the right way.
The second was a Ninth Island Rosé. I had it when I was about 24 over lunch in a very good seafood restaurant in Hobart. I wasn't a big wine drinker at this stage and would never have chosen it, but I found it's freshness and subtle dryness beguiling. Moreover it became a wine that I had to search high and low for, to find it again which meant I began going into more bottle shops "just in case".
The third was the 1990 St Henri. I had it with a mate over dinner in Perth in 1997 and it was superb. I'd been studying at Uni and had been drinking a lot of Emu Bitter and the occasional cheap red, so the St Henri was a massive step up in class. I remember sitting there and rolling it around in my mouth to savour as much of it as possible. I started working part time at Vintage Cellars soon after that...
The last one was a bottle of 1996 Tahbilk Marsanne that I had in 2013. A magnificent wine, but most importantly it was the first wine I bought at auction. I'd first tasted Tahbilk Marsanne when I worked at VC's, but I never liked it young because I find the lemon pith flavour to be too prominent. I'd had a taste of a couple of older examples and I'd heard stories about its aging potential. I'd also known about wine auctions for many years, but never quite got around to it. I remember putting in a bid on my phone 15 mins before the auction closed because I had to go and see a film and then being quite surprised to be the winning bidder when the film ended. Then after having the wine delivered safely and drinking it I thought that to pick up an almost 20 year old wine, that was mind blowingly good, for $20 or so... It was money for jam. I'd say that wines from auction now make up about half my collection.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:23 pm
by michel
Duncan Disorderly wrote:Like many previous posters I've had a few defining moments, but there are four formative wines that really come to mind.
The first was the 1986 Wynns Shiraz (or the Hermitage as it was known then). My father had bought several cases on the advice of a mate and occasionally I'd knock one off. Being 17 or so I was generally interested in bingeing, but one night I remember having one that had had time to breathe and it was really good. It probably opened my eyes up to what a wine could taste like treated the right way.
The second was a Ninth Island Rosé. I had it when I was about 24 over lunch in a very good seafood restaurant in Hobart. I wasn't a big wine drinker at this stage and would never have chosen it, but I found it's freshness and subtle dryness beguiling. Moreover it became a wine that I had to search high and low for, to find it again which meant I began going into more bottle shops "just in case".
The third was the 1990 St Henri. I had it with a mate over dinner in Perth in 1997 and it was superb. I'd been studying at Uni and had been drinking a lot of Emu Bitter and the occasional cheap red, so the St Henri was a massive step up in class. I remember sitting there and rolling it around in my mouth to savour as much of it as possible. I started working part time at Vintage Cellars soon after that...
The last one was a bottle of 1996 Tahbilk Marsanne that I had in 2013. It was the first bottle of wine I bought at auction and it was magnificent. I'd first tasted Tahbilk Marsanne when I worked at VC's, but I've never liked it young because I find the lemon pity flavour to be too prominent. I'd had a taste of a couple of older examples and I'd heard stories about its aging potential. I'd also known about wine auctions for many years, but never quite got around to it. I remember putting in a bid on my phone 15 mins before the auction closed because I had to go and see a film and then being quite surprised to be the winning bidder when the film ended. Then after having the wine delivered safely and drinking it I thought that to pick up an almost 20 year old wine, that was mind blowingly good, for $20 or so... It was money for jam. I'd say that wines from auction now make up about half my collection.
Great read
I reckon we need an ongoing defining moments or revelations post
Every now and then in a life you have a wine that gives you a glimpse of a wine perception that you were unaware of!
Well done
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:40 pm
by mjs
Chuck wrote:Some may giggle. A Seaview 1978 McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon with a mate in a French restaurant in Brisvegas around 1980. A true lightbulb moment. Not sure if it was the food, company or both but it turned my head in the right direction.
Passing it's old home in McLaren Vale on regular trips there always brings a smile. They made some good solid wines at very reasonable prices and did a few upmarket wines that absolutely floated my boat. Just can't remember the labels. Anyone remember these?
And not to forget the Penfolds 1986 Bin 389 soon after we moved to Adelaide in 1990. Thought buying a 6 pack was going super long until they ran out and realising there was none left to buy. Now its by the case or 3.
Carl
The Seaview McLaren Vale cabernet label was actually a good honest, good value wine, nothing wrong with that
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 3:02 pm
by felixp21
Chuck wrote:Some may giggle. A Seaview 1978 McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon with a mate in a French restaurant in Brisvegas around 1980. A true lightbulb moment. Not sure if it was the food, company or both but it turned my head in the right direction.
Passing it's old home in McLaren Vale on regular trips there always brings a smile. They made some good solid wines at very reasonable prices and did a few upmarket wines that absolutely floated my boat. Just can't remember the labels. Anyone remember these?
And not to forget the Penfolds 1986 Bin 389 soon after we moved to Adelaide in 1990. Thought buying a 6 pack was going super long until they ran out and realising there was none left to buy. Now its by the case or 3.
Carl
got my dad a dozen of that exact wine for his birthday all those years ago. The 78 was a very nice drop!!!!
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 4:05 pm
by Mike Hawkins
Chuck wrote:Some may giggle. A Seaview 1978 McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon with a mate in a French restaurant in Brisvegas around 1980. A true lightbulb moment. Not sure if it was the food, company or both but it turned my head in the right direction.
Passing it's old home in McLaren Vale on regular trips there always brings a smile. They made some good solid wines at very reasonable prices and did a few upmarket wines that absolutely floated my boat. Just can't remember the labels. Anyone remember these?
And not to forget the Penfolds 1986 Bin 389 soon after we moved to Adelaide in 1990. Thought buying a 6 pack was going super long until they ran out and realising there was none left to buy. Now its by the case or 3.
Carl
Edwards and Chaffey?
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 5:09 pm
by Chuck
n4sir wrote:Chuck wrote:Some may giggle. A Seaview 1978 McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon with a mate in a French restaurant in Brisvegas around 1980. A true lightbulb moment. Not sure if it was the food, company or both but it turned my head in the right direction.
Passing it's old home in McLaren Vale on regular trips there always brings a smile. They made some good solid wines at very reasonable prices and did a few upmarket wines that absolutely floated my boat. Just can't remember the labels. Anyone remember these?
Edwards and Chaffey/Section 353 were the upmarket labels they tried to introduce.
Thanks Ian. They were pretty good wines.
Carl
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 12:47 am
by andyled
E&E Black Pepper Shiraz.
A friend came over to dinner in 1993 and brought a bottle with them. I had never really drunk anything like it before. And now 24 years later I can always find a couple of bottles of E&E Black Pepper Shiraz somewhere in the cellar. Looks like 1998 is the current vintage I am drinking.
Having found that wine and that specific area in the north west of Barrosa I went on to further epiphanies discovering Torbreck and Two Hands.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:53 am
by michel
Chuck wrote:n4sir wrote:Chuck wrote:Some may giggle. A Seaview 1978 McLaren Vale Cabernet Sauvignon with a mate in a French restaurant in Brisvegas around 1980. A true lightbulb moment. Not sure if it was the food, company or both but it turned my head in the right direction.
Passing it's old home in McLaren Vale on regular trips there always brings a smile. They made some good solid wines at very reasonable prices and did a few upmarket wines that absolutely floated my boat. Just can't remember the labels. Anyone remember these?
Edwards and Chaffey/Section 353 were the upmarket labels they tried to introduce.
Thanks Ian. They were pretty good wines.
Carl
Try and recall the name of that French Restaurant!
In New Farm we had a phillip johnson one called Le Bronx where I had my first Mondavi wine.
Another at Milton off Park Road where I had the 82 Comtesse at- can't recall the name atm.
Re: The wine that started it all...
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:17 pm
by Chuck
michel wrote:Chuck wrote:n4sir wrote:
Edwards and Chaffey/Section 353 were the upmarket labels they tried to introduce.
Thanks Ian. They were pretty good wines.
Carl
Try and recall the name of that French Restaurant!
In New Farm we had a phillip johnson one called Le Bronx where I had my first Mondavi wine.
Another at Milton off Park Road where I had the 82 Comtesse at- can't recall the name atm.
Man that was almost 40 years ago!! I can barely remember what wines I drank yesterday. However I do recall on the night having my first taste of frogs legs and escargot. They were yummy and continued my food and wine journey that continues to this day.
Carl