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Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:21 pm**

Cactus wrote:
Teisto wrote:Back in the game again so time to hit the straps and get back in to it

6 x 2013 Yarra Yering Pinot Noir
4 x 2013 Yarra Yering Dry Red #1
4 x 2013 Yarra Yering Dry Red #2
4 x 2013 Yarra Yering Underhill Shiraz
3 x 2008 Yarra Yering Dry Red #1
3 x 2008 Yarra Yering Dry Red #2

2 x 2013 Standish the Standish
2 x 2013 Standish the Relic
2 x 2013 Standish Grenache
1 x 2013 Standish Magnum

Went to a tasting the other day for Yarra Yering. First time drinker. They had these releases and the 2008's for drinking as well. Oh and the Carrodus high end range stuff and a 100% Voigner.

They were all very nice and pleasant. The 2008's showed what they would become with a bit of time. Would gladly drink any that are put in front of me.

But the prices are what get me. They are $80+ for entry level and well overs for the high end. Its just that for me I struggle to see the value. I would gladly pay $50-60 for their entry level wines, but $80 is just too much to stomach. And $150 for staight Viognier? Who honestly buys that ?
This is all fine and their right as business people to do. I just shake my head and look elsewhere for value and there is plenty of others that do value.

I sense this is a broader theme of frustration for those on the forum.
Niche boutique winery makes good wine - gets talked about and discovered through communities like this.
Then word of mouth begets more interest and mass appeal follows as the brand builds.
They then either get a bit more commercial or they keep a list to reward the die-hards.
The commercial types keep raising prices to sell to brand/trophy junkies and the orginal die hards look at their 10-year verticals and wonder how long they continue to keep buying.
Start again and try to unearth the boutiques?

+1 from me too.

Have always loved YY and have a bit of a spread from 90-02. Met Dr Bailey once, interesting fellow. Currently umming and arrhing about some 2012s

Catcus would you like to become my ghost writer, might keep me out of trouble :wink:

Agree with your sentiments one billion percent...once you have sold your sole in business, bloody hard to get it back.
Leave the trophy collections to the big game hunters out there...clearly there are still plenty of them...dropping 2, 3, 5 or more grand on a case of vino is small change.

There are still plenty of operators with integrity out there that will continue to get my business...others chasing or being seduced by points or little stickers, first release wines at $100 or more...just rubbish!
Yes plenty have said that they are not interested in catering to small players like me, but thankfully others are mindful that a yearly case purchase might be all that I wish to or can spend...and over the years have kept things in check.

Cheers
Craig

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:42 pm**

phillisc wrote:Catcus would you like to become my ghost writer, might keep me out of trouble

Classic

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:13 pm**

Cactus wrote:
Teisto wrote:Back in the game again so time to hit the straps and get back in to it

6 x 2013 Yarra Yering Pinot Noir
4 x 2013 Yarra Yering Dry Red #1
4 x 2013 Yarra Yering Dry Red #2
4 x 2013 Yarra Yering Underhill Shiraz
3 x 2008 Yarra Yering Dry Red #1
3 x 2008 Yarra Yering Dry Red #2

2 x 2013 Standish the Standish
2 x 2013 Standish the Relic
2 x 2013 Standish Grenache
1 x 2013 Standish Magnum

Went to a tasting the other day for Yarra Yering. First time drinker. They had these releases and the 2008's for drinking as well. Oh and the Carrodus high end range stuff and a 100% Voigner.

They were all very nice and pleasant. The 2008's showed what they would become with a bit of time. Would gladly drink any that are put in front of me.

But the prices are what get me. They are $80+ for entry level and well overs for the high end. Its just that for me I struggle to see the value. I would gladly pay $50-60 for their entry level wines, but $80 is just too much to stomach. And $150 for staight Viognier? Who honestly buys that ?
This is all fine and their right as business people to do. I just shake my head and look elsewhere for value and there is plenty of others that do value.

I sense this is a broader theme of frustration for those on the forum.
Niche boutique winery makes good wine - gets talked about and discovered through communities like this.
Then word of mouth begets more interest and mass appeal follows as the brand builds.
They then either get a bit more commercial or they keep a list to reward the die-hards.
The commercial types keep raising prices to sell to brand/trophy junkies and the orginal die hards look at their 10-year verticals and wonder how long they continue to keep buying.
Start again and try to unearth the boutiques?

Cactus - if you are in Sydney I too was at the tasting last week. I received a members medallion when they changed hands a few years back. I must have jumped on the mailing list at the right time as I had never bought any of their stuff previously. Went to a tasting a couple of years ago and had just bought our house and was going through mortgage shock

so didn't buy any.

I agree on the Carrodus stuff - I think it is way overvalued however the ability for their aging capability and a birth year for my daughter saw me lash out on this occasion. I do however think the #1, #2, Underhill and Pinot are reasonably good value given comparisons to other sub $100 Australian wines

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:20 pm**

6 x Bodega Piedra Negra Reserve Malbec 2012

Posted: **Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:42 am**

Michael R wrote:
phillisc wrote:Catcus would you like to become my ghost writer, might keep me out of trouble

Classic

Precisely!

Posted: **Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:43 am**

3 x 2013 Mayford Shiraz
2 x 2013 By Farr Shiraz
3 x 2013 Glaetzer Dixon Shiraz Mon Pere
3 x 2011 Blue Poles Allouran
2 x 2013 By Farr Pinot Noir Farrside
2 x 2013 By Farr Pinot Noir Sangreal
2 x 2013 De Bortoli Pinot Noir Villages
2 x 2012 Houghton Cabernet Sauvignon Gladstones
3 x 2010 Linnaea Trifulau Barolo
3 x 2009 Linnaea Cabernet Sauvignon Rhizotomi

Posted: **Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:23 am**

Ozzie W wrote:
3 x 2009 Linnaea Cabernet Sauvignon Rhizotomi

thats the usa one not the heathcote?

Posted: **Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:16 pm**

Surely Italian if they have a 'Barolo' ?

Posted: **Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:59 pm**

michel wrote:
Ozzie W wrote:
3 x 2009 Linnaea Cabernet Sauvignon Rhizotomi

thats the usa one not the heathcote?

Yep... from Napa.

Posted: **Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:06 pm**

swirler wrote:Surely Italian if they have a 'Barolo' ?

Linnaea is an interesting label. They are producing wine in Heathcote, Piedmont, Barolo & Napa. Quite a diverse range there.

Posted: **Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:52 pm**

6 x Mildara 2008 Coonawarra Cabernet Sauvignon.
2 x Cullen 2007 Mangan Margaret River Merlot Petit Verdot Malbec
4 x Mocandunda Vineyard 2012 Hand Picked Clare Valley Riesling

Posted: **Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:31 pm**

12 x 2012 Mildara Cabernet Sauvignon
6 x 2012 Wynns V&A Lane Cabernet Shiraz
1 x 1975 Bowen Estate Shiraz Cabernet
1 x 1971 Redman Claret
1 x 1993 Henschke Mt Edelstone Shiraz
5 x 2006 Wynns Alex88 Cabernet Sauvignon

Posted: **Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:31 pm**

6 x 2012 corino barbera
2 x 2013 woodlands cab merlot
2 x 1998 mildara cab sav
2 x 2003 mildara cab sav
2 x 1998 Metala original plantings shiraz (black label)
2 x 2005 petaluma riesling
1 x 2009 collector marked tree shiraz

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:44 pm**

Cactus wrote:Follw up to above - purchase...
6x Chalambar 2013 Shiraz.

Talk about value for money $15-20/bttle and typically sh-ts all over $30-40 bottles; cellars beautifully.
Why hasnt the price for this ever lifted relative to others? Not that I want it to, but it stands out in the VFM stakes.

Yep, love this stuff!

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:50 pm**

Cellar getting full so cutting back on purchases, but squeezed in half a dozen 2013 Diana Madeline - went to Vanya's new release wine tasting dinner a couple of weeks ago and it is superb, so had to buy yet another vintage and stick it in the back of the cellar for 15 years!

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:36 am**

6 x 2012 Wynns Black Cabernet
6 x 2012 Yalumba Signature
12 x 2012 Metala Cab/Shiraz
6 x 2012 D'Arenburg Footbolt Shiraz
2 x 2011 Forester Estate Cab
2 x 2010 Kay Bros Hillside
6 x 2012 Stoneyfell Cab/Shiraz

Some for the coming years.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:00 pm**

Been a bit busy and quite naughty on the credit card of late:

12 * 2012 Wynns Black Label Cabernet
6 * 2012 Wolf Blass Grey Label Shiraz
12 * 2012 Wolf Blass Grey Label Cabernet Shiraz
6 * 2006 Barossa Valley Estate Black Pepper Shiraz
3 * 2006 D'Arenburg Dead Arm Shiraz

One of each of the 2012 Wynns John Riddoch Cabernet, 2012 Michael Shiraz, 2012 Child's Cabernet, 2012 Alex 88 Single Vintage, and 2010 Messenger Cabernet

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:38 pm**

Redwine&Rum wrote:One of each of the 2012 Wynns John Riddoch Cabernet, 2012 Michael Shiraz, 2012 Child's Cabernet, 2012 Alex 88 Single Vintage, and 2010 Messenger Cabernet

I thought the 2012 JR and Michael weren't released until WynnsDay 5 August? Is this a Wynns wine club pre-release? Has pricing been announced yet?

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:22 pm**

Hi ozzie. Yeah it was a Wynns Club pre-release. I ordered them, but probably won't get them for a while.

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:18 pm**

4 x 2009 Domaine Michel Magnien Gevrey-Chambertin 'Les Seuvrees' Vieilles Vignes
3 x 2007 Domaine Huet Le Mont Demi Sec
1 x 2013 La Linea Vertigo Riesling
1 x NV Eden Road P3

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:05 am**

Some more auction purchases:
x6 Paolo Scavino Barolo 2010
x3 Head Wines Old Vine Grenache 2013

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:01 am**

winetastic wrote:Some more auction purchases:
x6 Paolo Scavino Barolo 2010

ha ha ha
i saw those and was tempted
thanks for buying them

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:02 am**

Hi all, First time here. Here are some of my July Purchases (just don't tell the wife)

1 x 1998 Hanschke HOG
3 x 1999 Torbreck Run Rig
2 x 2005 Torbreck Run Rig
1 x 2012 Torbreck Run Rig
1 x 2010 Pertarings Yeoman
1 x 2011 ChÃƒÂ¢teau d'Yquem (375)
1 x 1998 MoÃƒÂ«t & Chandon Champagne CuvÃƒÂ©e Dom PÃƒÂ©rignon P2
1 x 2000 Krug Champagne Vintage Brut
1 x 2009 K1 by Geoff Hardy Tzimmukin

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:07 am**

michel wrote:ha ha ha
i saw those and was tempted
thanks for buying them

I bought 3 from an earlier auction, tasted one and it was fantastic, had to go back for more.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:09 am**

strippett wrote:Hi all, First time here. Here are some of my July Purchases (just don't tell the wife)
1 x 2011 ChÃƒÂ¢teau d'Yquem (375)
1 x 1998 MoÃƒÂ«t & Chandon Champagne CuvÃƒÂ©e Dom PÃƒÂ©rignon P2
1 x 2000 Krug Champagne Vintage Brut

Welcome aboard.

Living the dream with that selection.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:22 am**

mjs wrote:12 x 2012 Mildara Cabernet Sauvignon
6 x 2012 Wynns V&A Lane Cabernet Shiraz
1 x 1975 Bowen Estate Shiraz Cabernet
1 x 1971 Redman Claret
1 x 1993 Henschke Mt Edelstone Shiraz
5 x 2006 Wynns Alex88 Cabernet Sauvignon

Few more
1 x 1991 Henschke Mt Edelstone Shiraz
4 x 1996 Majella Cabernet Sauvignon
1 x 1996 Wynns Michael Shiraz (magnum)

then ordered:
1 x 2012 Wynns John Riddoch Cabernet Sauvignon
1 x 2012 Wynns Michael Shiraz
1 x 2012 Wynns Childs Block Cabernet Sauvignon
1 x 2013 Wynns V&A Lane Cabernet Shiraz
1 x 2013 Wynns V&A Lane Shiraz
7 x 2013 Wynns Black Label Cabernet
6 x 2013 Wynns Black Label Shiraz

.... portfolio still heavy in Coonawarra :mrgreen:

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:38 am**

winetastic wrote:
michel wrote:ha ha ha
i saw those and was tempted
thanks for buying them

I bought 3 from an earlier auction, tasted one and it was fantastic, had to go back for more.

I had an older vintage of his bric barolo 1997 and it was lovely
now i wished I had taken a plunge !

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:30 pm**

1x 2010 hofg
2x 2010 cris ringland randalls hill
1x 2012 torbreck runrig

Posted: **Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:57 am**

1 X 2013 Yangarra Small Pot Ceramic Egg Grenache
2 X 2013 Yangarra Estate GSM
2 X 2013 Yangarra Estate Grenache Old Vine
2 X 2008 Yangarra Estate Mourvedre
2 X 2013 Yangarra Estate Shiraz

Posted: **Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:24 pm**

Big month for me:
2 x 2010 Poderi Luigi Einaudi "Nei Cannubi"
6 x 2010 Paolo Scavino Barolo
12 x 2013 woodlands cab merlot
6 x 2014 woodlands chardonnay
6 x 2014 Head GSM
6 x 2013 Head old vine grenache
2 x 2012 woodlands Margaret
2 x 2012 woodlands Thomas
2 x 2011 woodlands Alex
1 x 1985 noble one
2 x 1996 turkey flat grenache noir
1 x 1999 Peter Lehman semillon
1 x 1995 Elizabeth semillon
1 x 2005 Shaw and Smith Shiraz
1 x 2006 Shaw and Smith Shiraz
1 x 2008 Shaw and Smith Shiraz
1 x 2012 Lindemans St George
1 x 2012 Lindemans limestone ridge
1 x 2007 Chalambar
1 x 2010 Chalambar

3 x Nikka Yoichi 15yo
1 x Talisker port ruighe
1 x Talisker distillers edition

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