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PaulG wrote:True As a self-declared novice at wine pairing, I am happy to defer to others who may fight it out and let me know what the theme is when they're done!

What is your proposal, Ian?

The major concern is finding things to match what could end up being 5-6 rieslings by the time Allan brings his three - probably the best scenario whould be to have them with the bruschetta, followed by the house made pasta, with the beef breasola & other dishes more suited to reds following on from there.

As it turns out an annual club dinner which I can't get out of has come up within a couple of days of the offline, so it looks like I will probably have to drop out anyway.

Have fun guys, and I look forward to reading how it went.

Cheers,
Ian

I'm so sorry to hear that Ian - we can't persuade you to have two wine nights in close proximity can we?

We will certainly keep you posted on how it goes!

n4sir wrote:

PaulG wrote:True As a self-declared novice at wine pairing, I am happy to defer to others who may fight it out and let me know what the theme is when they're done!

What is your proposal, Ian?

The major concern is finding things to match what could end up being 5-6 rieslings by the time Allan brings his three - probably the best scenario whould be to have them with the bruschetta, followed by the house made pasta, with the beef breasola & other dishes more suited to reds following on from there.

As it turns out an annual club dinner which I can't get out of has come up within a couple of days of the offline, so it looks like I will probably have to drop out anyway.

Have fun guys, and I look forward to reading how it went.

Cheers,
Ian

Ian

I hope that you won't let the fact that you are probably not coming deter you from reviewing people's suggested wines. Without you to scrutinise offerings to make sure they are fit for purpose there could be anarchy.

On a related note I second Paul's suggestion that you should go to both wine dinners. Any photos taken at the event won't be the same without the Star Trek style lens flare from your mighty cranium.

For what it is worth, I am happy with the Riesling/Shiraz theme. I suspect that our enjoyment of the food and wine won't be fatally impaired by a less than classical match of food to wine.

Cheers

Mark

I know I won't feel right without having whatever wine I bring not meeting Ian's approval

Another roll call and wine listing that we know so far:
Paul & Jas & Justin+2 (Heggie's Vineyard Botrytis Riesling +at least 2 if not 4 other bottles)
Waiters Friend (Capel Vale Whispering HIll Riesling 2000 and 2008, Capel Vale Whispering Hill Shiraz 2008, Capel Vale Kinnaird Shiraz 2000, Houghtons Frankland River/Gladstones 1999-2001)
Sarah (+1? - Is Matt coming?)
Mark & Gail
Steve
Gavin
Wayno
Seven?

Just to let you all know, I need final numbers by Thursday 25 August, so if you drop out after then, there may well be a cancellation fee. We can fit a lot more at the table though, so please feel free to invite others!

Could people please let me know what wines they are bringing?

n4sir wrote:

PaulG wrote:True As a self-declared novice at wine pairing, I am happy to defer to others who may fight it out and let me know what the theme is when they're done!

What is your proposal, Ian?

The major concern is finding things to match what could end up being 5-6 rieslings by the time Allan brings his three - probably the best scenario whould be to have them with the bruschetta, followed by the house made pasta, with the beef breasola & other dishes more suited to reds following on from there.

As it turns out an annual club dinner which I can't get out of has come up within a couple of days of the offline, so it looks like I will probably have to drop out anyway.

Have fun guys, and I look forward to reading how it went.

Cheers,
Ian

G'day Ian

A shame if you can't make it. I'm delighted and pleasantly surprised that this offline is occurring in the first place. After your initial acceptance, I was looking forward to meeting the person behind some of the best (and consistently good) tasting notes ever to grace this forum. It would be a bonus for me if you can join us.

Cheers

Allan

Waiters Friend wrote:G'day Ian

A shame if you can't make it. I'm delighted and pleasantly surprised that this offline is occurring in the first place. After your initial acceptance, I was looking forward to meeting the person behind some of the best (and consistently good) tasting notes ever to grace this forum. It would be a bonus for me if you can join us.

Cheers

Allan

Sorry Allan, but it's looking really unlikely that I can commit before the 25th deadline. Two weeknight wine dinners the other side of town is going to be too much, especially at our busiest time of year when I'm working late nearly every night. I was initially thinking there would be a bit more of a break in between the two events, but it turns out to be a lot closer than I anticipated which makes it difficult to say the least. I'd only be able to give a day or so's notice, which may not suit Paul.

Cheers,
Ian

Hey everyone,

We're getting closer to the dates - just a reminder, that if you're on this list, I'm assuming you'll attend!

Paul & Jas & Justin+2 (Heggie's Vineyard Botrytis Riesling +at least 2 if not 4 other bottles)
Waiters Friend (Capel Vale Whispering HIll Riesling 2000 and 2008, Capel Vale Whispering Hill Shiraz 2008, Capel Vale Kinnaird Shiraz 2000, Houghtons Frankland River/Gladstones 1999-2001)
Sarah
Mark & Gail
Steve
Gavin
Wayno

Maybe's:
Seven
Sarah's +1

Looking forward to seeing you all!

sorry Paul. I would love to join but really can't make it. Please have fun without me.

Apologies Paul but I have now been scheduled to be out of Adelaide that night (intra-state). Hopefully this is not too late notice, have a good night.

I am in - will let you know about the +1

Will bring a bottle of bubbles to start, and old (70s?) riesling and maybe something for the dessert.

Paul & Jas & Justin+2 (Heggie's Vineyard Botrytis Riesling, Colonial Estate Exile 2009 Shiraz, JJ Hahn '1914' 2002 Shiraz (by Rolf Binder) +1 if not 2 other bottles)
Waiters Friend (Capel Vale Whispering HIll Riesling 2000 and 2008, Capel Vale Whispering Hill Shiraz 2008, Capel Vale Kinnaird Shiraz 2000, Houghtons Frankland River/Gladstones 1999-2001)
Sarah +1? - Bubbles, 70s riesling and something for dessert
Mark & Gail
Steve
Gavin

Right - Final numbers (bar Sarah's possible +1) are above. Mark, Steve, Gavin, do you have any idea as to what you'll be bringing?

PaulG wrote:Right - Final numbers (bar Sarah's possible +1) are above. Mark, Steve, Gavin, do you have any idea as to what you'll be bringing?

No idea yet, Paul. I'm out of town until Tuesday or Wednesday, so I won't know until then.

Looking at the line up so far I'll try to take something cabernet or chardonnay based (ha! Something red or white or bubbly ). There's enough wine on the way to make my standard two bottles thing completely unnecessary...

PaulG wrote:Paul & Jas & Justin+2 (Heggie's Vineyard Botrytis Riesling, Colonial Estate Exile 2009 Shiraz, JJ Hahn '1914' 2002 Shiraz (by Rolf Binder) +1 if not 2 other bottles)
Waiters Friend (Capel Vale Whispering HIll Riesling 2000 and 2008, Capel Vale Whispering Hill Shiraz 2008, Capel Vale Kinnaird Shiraz 2000, Houghtons Frankland River/Gladstones 1999-2001)
Sarah +1? - Bubbles, 70s riesling and something for dessert
Mark & Gail
Steve
Gavin

Right - Final numbers (bar Sarah's possible +1) are above. Mark, Steve, Gavin, do you have any idea as to what you'll be bringing?

Just been out to the cellar, and the shiraz is all looking good - but I must have drunk all of my old Capel Vale rieslings.

No problem, I'm sure young and old Howard Parks will be an acceptable substitute, or something similar. Still 3 rieslings, 3 shiraz.

I'm looking forward to it.

Cheers

Allan

Hi Guys

At this stage put me down for a 98 Capel Vale Kinnaird and a 98 Hollick Wilgha.

Cheers

When you list them all out, it's looking like it'll be a cracker of a night! Wine list thus far:

Rieslings:
Howard Park (2000?)
Howard Park (2008)
Houghton Frankland River 2001
Something from the 1970s

Shiraz:
JJ Hahn '1914' Shiraz 2000
Colonial Estate Exile Shiraz 2009
Capel Vale Whispering Hill 2008
Capel Vale Kinnaird 1998
Capel Vale Kinnaird 2000
Houghton Frankand River (2000?)
Hollick Wilgha 1998
Schubert Estate “The Gosling” 2008 Shiraz and/or Domain Day 2005 Sangiovese (Not shiraz, I know, but I'm not making it a category of its own!)


Sparkling:
Unknown sparkling

Dessert:
2009 Mount Horrock's Cordon Cut Riesling
Unknown dessert wine

PaulG wrote:When you list them all out, it's looking like it'll be a cracker of a night! Wine list thus far:

Rieslings:
Howard Park (2000 or 2001)
Howard Park (2010)
Houghton Frankland River 2001
Something from the 1970s

Shiraz:
JJ Hahn '1914' Shiraz 2000
Colonial Estate Exile Shiraz 2009
Capel Vale Whispering Hill 2008
Capel Vale Kinnaird 1998
Capel Vale Kinnaird 2000
Houghton Frankand River (1999)
Hollick Wilgha 1998
Schubert Estate “The Gosling” 2008 Shiraz and/or Domain Day 2005 Sangiovese (Not shiraz, I know, but I'm not making it a category of its own!)


Sparkling:
Unknown sparkling

Dessert:
2008 Heggie's Vineyard Botrytis Riesling
Unknown dessert wine

A couple of points. Am I the only person bringing rieslings? In which case, WA will win hands down A couple of SA examples for contrast would be useful.

Secondly, I have inspected the cellar again, and you may notice subtle changes to the years of the rieslings I will bring.

Thirdly, Ian, if you decide at the last minute to turn up, I don't think anyone (especially the restaurant) will be alarmed. I'd like to see your tasting notes from this event.

Finally, thanks again Paul for putting this together. I'm looking forward to meeting you all, and finding out why each of you got into wine in the first place.

Cheers

Allan

A pleasure, Allan!

Just a quick update - I couldn't get my hands on a Heggie's Vineyard reserve, so I'll be bringing a Mount Horrocks Cordon Cut Riesling instead

PaulG wrote:A pleasure, Allan!

Just a quick update - I couldn't get my hands on a Heggie's Vineyard reserve, so I'll be bringing a Mount Horrocks Cordon Cut Riesling instead

Yum! I bought some of the 2009 when the delightful Sue and I were there in March 2010. We were told at the time that they would discontinue the wine from 2010, as it didn't sell sufficiently (they would pick earlier to go in the standard dry riesling), but the 2009 is so clean and pure - pristine fruit.

See you Thursday.

Allan

BTW, what is the address for Pinochios? I need to know what to tell the taxi driver. I'll be on North Terrace.

PaulG wrote:Paul & Jas & Justin+2 (Heggie's Vineyard Botrytis Riesling, Colonial Estate Exile 2009 Shiraz, JJ Hahn '1914' 2002 Shiraz (by Rolf Binder) +1 if not 2 other bottles)
Waiters Friend (Capel Vale Whispering HIll Riesling 2000 and 2008, Capel Vale Whispering Hill Shiraz 2008, Capel Vale Kinnaird Shiraz 2000, Houghtons Frankland River/Gladstones 1999-2001)
Sarah +1? - Bubbles, 70s riesling and something for dessert
Mark & Gail
Steve
Gavin

Right - Final numbers (bar Sarah's possible +1) are above. Mark, Steve, Gavin, do you have any idea as to what you'll be bringing?

Gavin here.

I don't have a lot of older Riesling (something I am working on)

but can bring

* 2009 Grosset Polish Hill Riesling
or
* for diversity, German Riesling, perhaps from Fritz Haag ... preferences?

Shiraz, loads, speak up all comers, should I bring

* 2001 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz

or

* 2002 Kalleske Greenock Shiraz ... their first ever Shiraz, before they became famous

or

* 2000 or 2001 Wendouree Shiraz Mataro

Advice and preferences welcome .. Allan??

.

Gavin Trott wrote:

PaulG wrote:Paul & Jas & Justin+2 (Heggie's Vineyard Botrytis Riesling, Colonial Estate Exile 2009 Shiraz, JJ Hahn '1914' 2002 Shiraz (by Rolf Binder) +1 if not 2 other bottles)
Waiters Friend (Capel Vale Whispering HIll Riesling 2000 and 2008, Capel Vale Whispering Hill Shiraz 2008, Capel Vale Kinnaird Shiraz 2000, Houghtons Frankland River/Gladstones 1999-2001)
Sarah +1? - Bubbles, 70s riesling and something for dessert
Mark & Gail
Steve
Gavin

Right - Final numbers (bar Sarah's possible +1) are above. Mark, Steve, Gavin, do you have any idea as to what you'll be bringing?

Gavin here.

I don't have a lot of older Riesling (something I am working on)

but can bring

* 2009 Grosset Polish Hill Riesling
or
* for diversity, German Riesling, perhaps from Fritz Haag ... preferences?

Shiraz, loads, speak up all comers, should I bring

* 2001 E&E Black Pepper Shiraz

or

* 2002 Kalleske Greenock Shiraz ... their first ever Shiraz, before they became famous

or

* 2000 or 2001 Wendouree Shiraz Mataro

Advice and preferences welcome .. Allan??

.

My preference would be for the E&E Black Pepper Shiraz,not having tried it before. If we are too shiraz heavy, I can replace one of my shiraz with a Grosset Riesling or maybe a Pikes Reserve Riesling.

Mark

Are we all psyched and ready for tomorrow night? Hoping that everyone is still on to come!

Yep - still in. Boarding passes done, and 6 bottles of wine packed into styrofoam packs for the trip. Not a lot of room left in the suitcase for clothes and yes, I must remember this is a work trip!

Gavin - a Wendouree would be marvellous if you think it is remotely ready to drink. I think it would be a great counterpoint to Barossa reds, and the Great Southerns I have packed are possibly of a less robust style than the Barossans - would love to compare with a Clare. My older reds (and the older rieslings, for that matter) are all 2001s.

Looking forward to meeting you all tomorrow night.

Cheers

Allan

In order to balance out the contest, I will swap my Capel Vale Kinnaird for a 2006 Grosset Polish Hill. Unfortunately The Tunnels is closed until next week so I can't liberate anything older.

It's cabernet day, so I'm taking something cabernet-ish. No idea what that will be just yet, though.

Also something white and probably foreign. But I can't be sure, either.

Just confirmed numbers with the restaurant - Be warned any late drop outs that there will be a cancellation fee!

I opened the Exile this morning to get some air into it - wow it smells big! I can't wait to try it!

Confirmed: 1997 Wynn's John Riddoch cabernet, and a 2009 Ocean Eight chardonnay.

I have a few 2011 rieslings but it looks like we're going to be overwhelmed by wine as it is!

Wine Update

Rieslings:
Howard Park (2001)
Howard Park (2008)
Houghton Frankland River 2001
Grosset Polish Hill Riesling
Something from the 1970s

Other White:
Ocean Eight Chardonnay (2009)

Shiraz:
JJ Hahn '1914' Shiraz 2002
Colonial Estate Exile Shiraz 2009
Capel Vale Whispering Hill 2008
Capel Vale Kinnaird 1998
Houghton Frankand River (2000?)
Hollick Wilgha 1998
Schubert Estate “The Gosling” 2008 Shiraz
Wendourie Shiraz Mataro 2000/2001

Other red:
Wynn's John Riddoch Cabernet (1997)
Domain Day 2005 Sangiovese

Sparkling:
Unknown sparkling

Dessert:
2009 Mount Horrock's Cordon Cut Riesling
Unknown dessert wine

Update to update

Gone all out, now its

2004 Wendouree Shiraz.

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Fantastic!

I must admit to being a bit daunted by the sheer quantity of wine that is going to be sampled!