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Ian S wrote:1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz
Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.

Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr
Just an outstanding wine.
Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present.
No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty.
Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more

michel wrote:

Ian S wrote:1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz
Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.

bloody hell
i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well
what do you reckon ?
keep or flick ?

michel wrote:

Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr
Just an outstanding wine.
Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present.
No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty.
Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more

Stop drinking them
I had a 6 pack

I have 3 left....

rooman wrote:

michel wrote:

Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr
Just an outstanding wine.
Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present.
No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty.
Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more

Stop drinking them
I had a 6 pack

I have 3 left....

Excellent, I buried a case at the back of the cellar and so far have resisted trying any. Any chances on how long to leave it before cracking the case open to try one?

Mark

michel wrote:

rooman wrote:
Excellent, I buried a case at the back of the cellar and so far have resisted trying any. Any chances on how long to leave it before cracking the case open to try one?

Mark

Try one in 3 years

michel wrote:

Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr
Just an outstanding wine.
Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present.
No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty.
Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more

Stop drinking them
I had a 6 pack

I have 3 left....

Bobthebuilder wrote:

michel wrote:

Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr
Just an outstanding wine.
Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present.
No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty.
Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more

Stop drinking them
I had a 6 pack

I have 3 left....

thanks michel
you not only gave me the best laugh I've had all week but some reinforcement of confidence in palate
I only got 2 so I have a lot harder job than you of seeing this through

Ian S wrote:

michel wrote:

Ian S wrote:1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz
Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.

bloody hell
i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well
what do you reckon ?
keep or flick ?

It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz
It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.

Chuck wrote:

Ian S wrote:

michel wrote:
bloody hell
i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well
what do you reckon ?
keep or flick ?

It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz
It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.

IMO flick if the price is good. It aint going to get any better. It's Adelaide Plains fruit. No more no less. Drink the wine not the label.

Chuck

Ian S wrote:

michel wrote:

Ian S wrote:
1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz
Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.



bloody hell
i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well
what do you reckon ?
keep or flick ?



It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz
It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.



IMO flick if the price is good. It aint going to get any better. It's Adelaide Plains fruit. No more no less. Drink the wine not the label.

Chuck

Tucker Wine Studios wrote:

Ian S wrote:

michel wrote:

Ian S wrote:
1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz
Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.



bloody hell
i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well
what do you reckon ?
keep or flick ?



It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz
It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.



IMO flick if the price is good. It aint going to get any better. It's Adelaide Plains fruit. No more no less. Drink the wine not the label.

Chuck

Hold on, Chuck, is that really correct?

The Magill Estate vineyard is - as far as I know - neither located within the boundaries of the 'Adelaide Plains' wine region nor within the 'Adelaide Hills' wine region (AGI). As it sits outside the boundaries of these two wine regions it probably can be described as part of the 'Mount Lofty' wine zone.
I thought with its elevated position at the western slopes of the Adelaide Hills its terroir might be more similar to the Adelaide Hills than the Adelaide Plains.

https://www.wineaustralia.com/labelling/geographical-indicators/labelling-gi-adelaide-plains
https://www.wineaustralia.com/labelling/geographical-indicators/adelaide-hills
https://www.wineaustralia.com/labelling/geographical-indicators/labelling-gi-mount-lofty-ranges

BTW, Adelaide Plains wine can be quite good. Domenic Torzi and Tim Freeland make an excellent shiraz (Power of One) and grenache (Terreno Old Vine) under the Old Plains label.

Cheers,
Mario

JamieBahrain wrote:Served blind, the 1982 WOTN. I rated the 1996 and 1998 my highest.


Thankfully, a couple of nice clarets to finish the show.

JamieBahrain wrote:I'm straining my eyes Michel….looks like exotic drinking ?

michel wrote:No rush to drink good provenance 2001 Moss Wood cabernet- my next will be in 5 years....

Rocky wrote:

michel wrote:No rush to drink good provenance 2001 Moss Wood cabernet- my next will be in 5 years....

Any notes on the 01 MW? I have 2 of them and am getting a little twichie.

michel wrote:

Rocky wrote:

michel wrote:No rush to drink good provenance 2001 Moss Wood cabernet- my next will be in 5 years....

Any notes on the 01 MW? I have 2 of them and am getting a little twichie.

Screwcap
Purchased cellar door
Cellared well

First aromas are heady and powerful with wonderful brambly berries
No bricking in colour still vivid & young
Palate has unresolved tannins & plenty of acid
I loved this immediately
6 hours later with the in laws it had settled into a lovely weave of fruit acid
The in laws both loved the wine and asked to see the bottle and were gobsmacked to see it was 16 years young
It is drinking beautifully now but will repay more time
I reckon grass fed beef medium rare would suit