Re: Is Rockford Basket Press Worth the Fuss?
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:31 pm
The corkscrew they sent out was beautiful.
Nuff said.
Cheers
Michael
Nuff said.
Cheers
Michael
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I think this is spot on...Rockford itself is definitely a class act...and what they do for their members is fantastic.Michael R wrote:Is BP worth the fuss?
Not so far for me, but i don't have the experience with the wine at 20+ years, an important caveat.
Interestingly, the only BP that has stood out was a 98 drunk maybe 5 years ago.
Is Rockford worth the fuss?
Most def. Absolutely love the place, its more than the wine sold. Only list i've intentionally stayed on. I even include a few BPs every year as its generally a decent wine and i can enjoy it regardless of any fuss (plus it makes great gifts)
Polymer is the font of all knowledge in terms of cellaring and what everyone likes, I've said it before, and I know people who say; Rockord ain't got the succession planning correct.Scotty vino wrote:well i had my first stone wall tasting experience today.
Looked after superbly and it was a nice and relaxed pace compared to the regular cellar door.
Tried a few extra bits and pieces such as the vine vale rizz which i liked and bought a 6er amongst other things.
thought the BP and BS were solid. the BP seemed quite approachable now. The BS seemed very funky and bretty off the bat but that seemed to drop away and it became quite complex with time in the glass. I almost wanted to be disappointed in the BS but honestly it refused to be denied in my mind.
As for the 15 BP ....it seemed slightly softer and lighter in structure and I'd happily drink it tomorrow.
There's enough tannin and complexity/acid/structure to see it go a decent stretch though.
The 'fuss' for me was driving 1 hour with the wifey on lovely sunny afternoon.
Worth it? absolutely.
Is that how you've taken it?Matt@5453 wrote: Polymer is the font of all knowledge in terms of cellaring and what everyone likes
Pauline Hanson says...."please explain"?Matt@5453 wrote:Polymer is the font of all knowledge in terms of cellaring and what everyone likes, I've said it before, and I know people who say; Rockord ain't got the succession planning correct.Scotty vino wrote:well i had my first stone wall tasting experience today.
Looked after superbly and it was a nice and relaxed pace compared to the regular cellar door.
Tried a few extra bits and pieces such as the vine vale rizz which i liked and bought a 6er amongst other things.
thought the BP and BS were solid. the BP seemed quite approachable now. The BS seemed very funky and bretty off the bat but that seemed to drop away and it became quite complex with time in the glass. I almost wanted to be disappointed in the BS but honestly it refused to be denied in my mind.
As for the 15 BP ....it seemed slightly softer and lighter in structure and I'd happily drink it tomorrow.
There's enough tannin and complexity/acid/structure to see it go a decent stretch though.
The 'fuss' for me was driving 1 hour with the wifey on lovely sunny afternoon.
Worth it? absolutely.
Do some of your own research, I can't say more than that.Scotty vino wrote:Pauline Hanson says...."please explain"?Matt@5453 wrote:Polymer is the font of all knowledge in terms of cellaring and what everyone likes, I've said it before, and I know people who say; Rockord ain't got the succession planning correct.Scotty vino wrote:well i had my first stone wall tasting experience today.
Looked after superbly and it was a nice and relaxed pace compared to the regular cellar door.
Tried a few extra bits and pieces such as the vine vale rizz which i liked and bought a 6er amongst other things.
thought the BP and BS were solid. the BP seemed quite approachable now. The BS seemed very funky and bretty off the bat but that seemed to drop away and it became quite complex with time in the glass. I almost wanted to be disappointed in the BS but honestly it refused to be denied in my mind.
As for the 15 BP ....it seemed slightly softer and lighter in structure and I'd happily drink it tomorrow.
There's enough tannin and complexity/acid/structure to see it go a decent stretch though.
The 'fuss' for me was driving 1 hour with the wifey on lovely sunny afternoon.
Worth it? absolutely.
Well summed up. I don't drink the style often but I have a couple sitting there. Benchmark Barossa old school stylefelixp21 wrote:At the risk of being howled down, I'll put my 2c worth in here.
I no longer buy nor drink Rockford Basket Press Shiraz. Actually, I still have plenty of it in the cellar, and bring it out for family/friends when the occasion arises.
Is it worth the fuss? Absolutely!!!
Fairly priced, true to terroir, consistently fine Barossa shiraz... and Aussie Icon. Every young Aussie wine lover beginning their journey simply MUST have this wine as an integral part of their cellar. Like me, their tastes might change over time, but such change makes this no lesser an Australian jewel.
One of the great Australian wines, no doubt.
felixp21 wrote:At the risk of being howled down, I'll put my 2c worth in here.
I no longer buy nor drink Rockford Basket Press Shiraz. Actually, I still have plenty of it in the cellar, and bring it out for family/friends when the occasion arises.
Is it worth the fuss? Absolutely!!!
Fairly priced, true to terroir, consistently fine Barossa shiraz... and Aussie Icon. Every young Aussie wine lover beginning their journey simply MUST have this wine as an integral part of their cellar. Like me, their tastes might change over time, but such change makes this no lesser an Australian jewel.
One of the great Australian wines, no doubt.
I enjoy reading this forum because the participants generally don't resort to gratuitous ad hominem attacks.Matt@5453 wrote:Polymer is the font of all knowledge in terms of cellaring and what everyone likes, I've said it before, and I know people who say; Rockord ain't got the succession planning correct.
Fair point... the recent highs are not quite as high as the early 90s. That said, I’m told getting access to high quality grapes is easy given many of the Parkerised wines now have limited demand.JamieBahrain wrote:I raised the point earlier, about other regions where icon personalities drive a recognition and worth, that brings about fame and popularity in the wine that sees many great vineyard sources dry-up. Got me thinking. Can Basket Press ever be as good as it was in the late 80's and 90's at this price point?
I'd be happy to pay more to see the wine go up a notch or return to former glory, with I'm assuming, better fruit sourcing.
My best form of research is fronting up and tasting. I've tasted a few 90's BPs' and they are very good indeed. Having said that I'd dare say vintages like the 2010 and 2012 won't be far off the mark with some years under their belt. wait and see I guess.Matt@5453 wrote:Do some of your own research, I can't say more than that.Scotty vino wrote:Pauline Hanson says...."please explain"?Matt@5453 wrote:
Polymer is the font of all knowledge in terms of cellaring and what everyone likes, I've said it before, and I know people who say; Rockord ain't got the succession planning correct.
Spellcheck to table 5!Mike Hawkins wrote:I found the 2001 BP, like many from the vintage, a tad potty and raisiny
Or perhaps "potty" is a new way to reference barnyard characteristics.Michael McNally wrote:Spellcheck to table 5!Mike Hawkins wrote:I found the 2001 BP, like many from the vintage, a tad potty and raisiny![]()
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Cheers
Michael
Your wife is switched on and clearly has good taste.JamieBahrain wrote:I'm off to a higher end BBQ today with my tasting friends and I'm taking a G Conterno Barolo Cascina Francia 2000 whilst my dear parochial wife insisting on a Basket Press 2001.
Gez, I want an invite to your BBQs and I will stand right next to you and force myself to drink Barolo. Someone has to make sacrifices so it might as well be me.JamieBahrain wrote:
Far more attention was received at my BBQ yesterday for the BP than my Giacomo Conterno. .
I'd happily have a glass of each.....George Krashos wrote:Your wife is switched on and clearly has good taste.JamieBahrain wrote:I'm off to a higher end BBQ today with my tasting friends and I'm taking a G Conterno Barolo Cascina Francia 2000 whilst my dear parochial wife insisting on a Basket Press 2001.![]()
Redback wrote:I took the opportunity to open a 2015 BP yesterday over a family BBQ. No notes taken but I thought it atypical example of a Rockford BP. No significant change to previous vintages for my taste. I find that Rockford produces a certain “house”, old school Barossa Shiraz.
As someone who missed the 80's and 90's wine scene (too busy playing Transformers and watching He-Man) and didn't develop an interest until the noughties, can someone elaborate on the 'old school Barossa shiraz' style? I know Parker had an influence at some point, did the 'style' predate him or is it as a result? I've only had some recent vintages (I think I've only even consumed from four bottles) and therefore have no point of reference.Craig(NZ) wrote:Well summed up. I don't drink the style often but I have a couple sitting there. Benchmark Barossa old school style