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Chuck wrote:I have no experience on decanting the 98 JR. Should it be decanted at home and allowed to breath and if so for how long? In my experience older wines can improve with breathing but can also fall over fairly quickly. Any assistance would be appreciated. Opening at home also allows for tainted wines to be pulled.

Carl

Carl, I opened a 97 JR last week. Opened, poured into decanter at 6PM, served at 9PM...fantastic.
For purposes of the offline, you are right, opportunity to check for taint, I would open, double decant and back into bottle 1-2 hours before the dinner.

Cheers
Craig

I just wanted to confirm my 2008 Elderton Command Shiraz.
I was fussing around in the cellar and i decided i'd better check that i indeed have a 2008 command.
This is in fact the Carlton Football club 150 years anniversary instalment of this wine
but I couldn't see any reference to it being a command Shiraz.
Subsequently I contacted the winery and they have 100% confirmed that it is indeed a 2008 command....
wrapped in glorious navy blue!

I initially thought it would be good to join the '88 and '98 ranks but i think a couple of 2008 wines will a good
counter measure to some of the older wines. I did think of bringing the 08 noon but it sounds like we've got
plenty of good stuff on the menu already and assuming Jason is coming than we really will be spoilt for choice.

Bubbles to start a great idea to kick start the palate.

Yes Scotty, Elderton have a partnership with the mighty Bluebaggers.
Cheers Craig

Scotty vino wrote:I just wanted to confirm my 2008 Elderton Command Shiraz.
I was fussing around in the cellar and i decided i'd better check that i indeed have a 2008 command.
This is in fact the Carlton Football club 150 years anniversary instalment of this wine
but I couldn't see any reference to it being a command Shiraz.
Subsequently I contacted the winery and they have 100% confirmed that it is indeed a 2008 command....
wrapped in glorious navy blue!

It'll likely be the about the 16th best wine of the night if that team's track record is anything to go by ...

-- George Krashos

Yes we could all say alot.
But i wont.

Hunter wrote:Yes we could all say alot.
But i wont.

Come on boys play nice... I am aiming for 9-12 and then the start of a run in 2019 up the ladder.
Cheers
Craig

George Krashos wrote:

Scotty vino wrote:I just wanted to confirm my 2008 Elderton Command Shiraz.
I was fussing around in the cellar and i decided i'd better check that i indeed have a 2008 command.
This is in fact the Carlton Football club 150 years anniversary instalment of this wine
but I couldn't see any reference to it being a command Shiraz.
Subsequently I contacted the winery and they have 100% confirmed that it is indeed a 2008 command....
wrapped in glorious navy blue!

It'll likely be the about the 16th best wine of the night if that team's track record is anything to go by ...

-- George Krashos

I'm hoping there's a metaphor at play here. This bottle is coming out of the cellar and it's glory and power will be released.
After the last few years, I'll try anything to get em going.

Hi everyone

I am counting the days down to our upcoming offline. Little bit like a kid in a lolly shop.

Have you locked in what wine you are bringing?

There are ao many great wines on the Langtons list it can be hard to decide.

David Librandi wrote:Hi All

So for for a Mid May offline we have interest from the following people:

Carl (Chuck) x 1
Mario (Tucker Wine Studio) x 1
Jamie x 1
David x 2
Hunter x 1
George (Krashos) x 1
Craig ((phillisc) x 1
Scot (Scotty Vino) x 1
Jeff x 1
Allan (Waiters Friend) x 1
Ian (n4sir) x 1
Adel (Trufflequeen) x 1

Please let me know if you are still keen to attend (aiming for 11 May) so we can start firming up attendees.

If I have missed anyone please let me know so I can add you to the list. Limited seats to 12 but there may be some people that are unable to attend.

Thanks to all.

David

With those numbers you might want to look at how the UK Wine Pages run their offlines. Basically they break everyone up into tables of no more than 8/9 with those people's wines on their table. That way you get a decent look at the wines rather than a tumble full. At the end of the night people swap whats left if any with other tables.

Mark

I agree with Mark's comment. I prefer to taste at least 100ml of a wine even if it means tasting less wines overall.

Carl

Ah the joys of being an event organiser eh David!

Hi Rooman, we will run the event as per the last one organised by Trufflequeen, but thanks for your advice.

David Librandi wrote:Hi Rooman, we will run the event as per the last one organised by Trufflequeen, but thanks for your advice.

suggestion.

I've never left an offline thirsty or wondering what a wine tasted like.

-- George Krashos

David Librandi wrote:Hi everyone

I am counting the days down to our upcoming offline. Little bit like a kid in a lolly shop.

Have you locked in what wine you are bringing?

There are ao many great wines on the Langtons list it can be hard to decide.

The last time I saw George he seemed to be very keen on the 1998 Mt Langi Shiraz, so that's my flagged wine. I will have the 1998 Dead Arm (then again maybe something completely different) as a backup.

Nice to see a Victorian in the line-up.

I trust the label won't be scratched, vandalized and defaced by the parochial home crowd !

JamieBahrain wrote:Nice to see a Victorian in the line-up.

I trust the label won't be scratched, vandalized and defaced by the parochial home crowd !

Had I attended let's see now...
Tahbilk 1860s
Sally's Paddock
St. Peters
JH Emily or Georgia's
Wild duck creek
MM quintet
dalwhinnie eagle and standard
Thompson's and bin 0
YY
Craiglee
Langhi

Victorian fear...not here
Cheers
Craig

That's great Phil.

It is the season of banter. Round 1 beckons.

JamieBahrain wrote:Nice to see a Victorian in the line-up.

I trust the label won't be scratched, vandalized and defaced by the parochial home crowd !

The only label i see being messed with the is the Elderton Command Carlton blues label.
Particularly if they get up over the mighty crows the week before...

JamieBahrain wrote:Nice to see a Victorian in the line-up.

I trust the label won't be scratched, vandalized and defaced by the parochial home crowd !

That would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face given Victoria makes the best shiraz in Aus. Cab SAv is more open to discussion but the prize probably goes to MR.

Mark

the last time an offline similar to the one planned played out i know the 1996 Seppelt Great Western Shiraz was the WOTN for a few of us including myself.

It was up against the below SA stalwarts

1986 Penfolds Magill Estate
1986 Penfolds Grange
2006 Penfolds RWT
1996 Charles Melton Nine Popes
1996 Wendouree Cab/Malbec
2006 Katnook Cabernet
2006 Kalleske Johan Georg Shiraz
1996 Rockford SVS Moorooroo Shiraz

Scotty vino wrote:the last time an offline similar to the one planned played out i know the 1996 Seppelt Great Western Shiraz was the WOTN for a few of us including myself.

It was up against the below SA stalwarts

1986 Penfolds Magill Estate
1986 Penfolds Grange
2006 Penfolds RWT
1996 Charles Melton Nine Popes
1996 Wendouree Cab/Malbec
2006 Katnook Cabernet
2006 Kalleske Johan Georg Shiraz
1996 Rockford SVS Moorooroo Shiraz

All jokes aside, that would be my preference too. The 98 Seppelts St Peters is probably one of my all time favourite Aussie shiraz along with a Castagna and some Clonakilla.

Ahh, Castagna, what a wonderful wine. Syrah is what they call it if I remember from a Sydney wine show many years ago.

Mahmoud Ali wrote:Ahh, Castagna, what a wonderful wine. Syrah is what they call it if I remember from a Sydney wine show many years ago.

If you are ever going through Beechworth, Julian the winemaker and owner of Castagna is one of the most hospitable hosts I have ever met at a winery. One needs to phone ahead for a visit but once there Julian takes you through the winery and opens endless bottles to shares. In the end I was so embarrassed I purchased all the open bottles and left him an old Barbaresco.

Mark

Nice one Mark. I will definitely keep that in mind if ever I am there. I met Julian and his son at a Sydney wine show many years ago and tasted a range of their wines, including a bushfire affected vintage that was there for educational purposes. I wish I had my notes so that I could recall what all I tasted. Was 2007 a year when there was a major bushfire in or near Beechworth?

Mahmoud.

Mahmoud Ali wrote:Nice one Mark. I will definitely keep that in mind if ever I am there. I met Julian and his son at a Sydney wine show many years ago and tasted a range of their wines, including a bushfire affected vintage that was there for educational purposes. I wish I had my notes so that I could recall what all I tasted. Was 2007 a year when there was a major bushfire in or near Beechworth?

Mahmoud.

Not sure about 2007 but apparently their 2011 was a total write-off. Julian was going to bin the entire crop until his son talked him into making a very drinkable vermouth. We used it to make Negronis for the next year or so.

Mark

Hunter wrote:Id like to lock in my Roennfeldt road if everyones happy with that. Although its going to be a powerhouse, we'l need some diversity in vintage i think. As theres only one other 2008. So far.
Cheers.

I had the 08 RR Shiraz at CD a couple of years ago. I hope it has tamed down a little, tbh I found it almost undrinkable, too alcoholic, massive wine. Ol' Whitey loves 'em though.

Chuck wrote:I have no experience on decanting the 98 JR. Should it be decanted at home and allowed to breath and if so for how long? In my experience older wines can improve with breathing but can also fall over fairly quickly. Any assistance would be appreciated. Opening at home also allows for tainted wines to be pulled.
Carl

With the JR, I would decant a few hours before, wash the bottle, return the wine and lightly recork. If I was drinking it with only a few others, I would probably just decant on the night and savour the changes in the glass with time.

Wish I had an excuse to be in Adl that weekend, hang on, the off-line would be an excuse!! Will be there this Easter weekend, couple of winemaking things to do, press our Maralinga Wine Society McLV grenache and maybe the brother's AH shiraz, both going through ferment atm.

mjs wrote:

Hunter wrote:Id like to lock in my Roennfeldt road if everyones happy with that. Although its going to be a powerhouse, we'l need some diversity in vintage i think. As theres only one other 2008. So far.
Cheers.

I had the 08 RR Shiraz at CD a couple of years ago. I hope it has tamed down a little, tbh I found it almost undrinkable, too alcoholic, massive wine. Ol' Whitey loves 'em though.

Yes i have similar thoughts. There is other options

Chuck wrote:I have no experience on decanting the 98 JR. Should it be decanted at home and allowed to breath and if so for how long? In my experience older wines can improve with breathing but can also fall over fairly quickly. Any assistance would be appreciated. Opening at home also allows for tainted wines to be pulled.

Carl

Chuck

I have opened a couple of the 98 over the past couple of years. Depending on how it’s been cellared it should just be starting to develop its secondary flavours.

I would suggest standing it upright the day before to allow the wine to settle and come up to room temperature. I would pull the cork the morning of the tasting and check it’s ok. I would then leave it somewhere dark and not too warm and allow it to open up in the bottle. Don’t decant at home. At the tasting test it when you arrive. It should have started to open up by the evening. It’s a big wine so you can decant it at the restaurant without too much concern if it still seems closed. Enjoy. I look forward to reading how it goes.

Mark

Thanks Mark. Plenty to go on there.

Carl