Penfolds Bin 60A + Block 42 2004

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:42 am

Both still very elemental at the moment and super wines

Penfolds Bin 60A 2004

Amazing colour...deep purple/red...super fragrant nose showing plum, raspberry, violets, chamomile and mocha ....still with some estery (bannana) hints. Fantastic concentration on the palate and quite savoury. Red/dark fruits, violets and dried herbs and flowers. Very dense at the moment but with super structure. The tannins are uber-ripe and the acid profile fantastic. A great continuation of the bloodline.....will be a classic...(96 Points)

Penfolds Block 42 Cabernet Sauvignon 2004.....same, same colour wise.....super concentrated......a very 'pretty wine' on the nose , perfumed but with deep Blackberry, Cassis fruit...nice to see wines that are varietal ......violets again with hints of thyme. Deeply fruited and amazingly balanced. Again the acid profile is just fantastic and the tannins are super-ripe....it's a wine with such depth that it seems to drag itself over the palate in slow motion.....destined for greatness also (96+ Points)

Hats off....probably two of the best young Aussie wines I have seen

707 · Post by **707** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:32 pm

Haven'ty seen them myself yet but close trusted palates back up your opinion Dave, super wines.

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:09 pm

One wonders if they will actually be drunk or just kept for trading. If so prices may never reach the 1962 model of the 60A as the current $2,500+ price tag is as a result of diminished supply. Again market forces govern prices like the 1990 Grange Hermitage. So much on offer at auctions now.

Chuck

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:13 pm

How many are being made?

I think its a sad fact that alot will be purchased for investing.

I will purchase one of each to cellar then drink longer term, but only if the price is <$450. Any dearer and I go First growth. How much is everyone here thinking of purchasing, if at all? Is price the deciding factor?

Cheers Barry

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:45 pm

Anonymous/Barry wrote: I will purchase one of each to cellar then drink longer term, but only if the price is <$450. Any dearer and I go First growth.

Barry, if I'm right, the Block 42 will surpass the 1er Crus available at the same price...and it's certainly going to be a much rarer treat!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:42 pm

How long should these wines take to hit their peak?

jacques · Post by **jacques** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:24 am

Where can I find them and how much is the price??

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:20 am

I believe the wine will be sold 'en primeur' in Australia in August.

I notice the 60A is already being offered in the U.K. for 125 pounds.....

http://www.penfoldsfutures.com.au/enprimeur/futures.asp

Cheers

Dave

Baby Chickpea · Post by **Baby Chickpea** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:03 am

Nice one Dave - how does the Block 42 compare to the 96 pls?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:14 am

Anonymous wrote:I believe the wine will be sold 'en primeur' in Australia in August.

I notice the 60A is already being offered in the U.K. for 125 pounds.....

http://www.penfoldsfutures.com.au/enprimeur/futures.asp

Cheers

Dave

Does that give us a ball park for what we "might" pay after tax, exchange etc?

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:12 pm

Looking at that Penfolds website it appears that Penfolds offer it en primeur to selected retailers and they pass it on to the consumer.

There is a section on the website were you can sign up for updates on the release and the selected retailers.....

Price-wise I don't have a clue what it will come out at......

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:42 pm

World wine of the vintage?

jacques · Post by **jacques** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:55 am

Oh! The Penfolds offer is already ended on last Friday! :shock:

Would you please tell me which shop in UK offering it?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:06 am

jacques wrote:Oh! The Penfolds offer is already ended on last Friday!
Would you please tell me which shop in UK offering it?

Jacques

BBR had it on their website yesterday......

Cheers

Dave