Nigeria Scam - gets better
- Gavin Trott
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Nigeria Scam - gets better
Hi
I'm sure most of you have had email scams from Nigeria before, huge sums of money available to you etc?
Well its goes much deeper for stores, with emails wanting to buy wines for shipment to Nigeria appearing weekly.
Next they have started coming to the store and ordering wines through the ordering process, for delivery to Nigeria. Very boring, but just hit delete and move on.
Today, for the first time, a phone call, live, international, asking to buy wines from me for delivery to Nigeria.
Once told I do not deal with any companies from there, immediate hang up.
Sheesh, getting worse isn't it!
I'm sure most of you have had email scams from Nigeria before, huge sums of money available to you etc?
Well its goes much deeper for stores, with emails wanting to buy wines for shipment to Nigeria appearing weekly.
Next they have started coming to the store and ordering wines through the ordering process, for delivery to Nigeria. Very boring, but just hit delete and move on.
Today, for the first time, a phone call, live, international, asking to buy wines from me for delivery to Nigeria.
Once told I do not deal with any companies from there, immediate hang up.
Sheesh, getting worse isn't it!
regards
Gavin Trott
Gavin Trott
- Gavin Trott
- Posts: 1860
- Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:01 pm
- Location: Adelaide
- Contact:
Red Bigot wrote:How do they offer to pay for the wines? On account? With a dodgy credit card?
Usually credit card, but this guy said direct tansfer, then his Canadian shippers (Yes Canadian) would come here to Australia to complete the deal.
Sheesh, new site, forum move, who needs this crap!
regards
Gavin Trott
Gavin Trott
Anonymous wrote:While we are on it, how many calls a week do you get from Indian call centres? I'm averaging 2-4 a week, driving me mad.
Cheers
Me too, most of them trying to flog me phone services. I have a couple of answers that work.
1. I am not the boss so can't make any decisions.
2. Tell them you have a satellite service and ask them if they can provide one. That normally stops the conversation completely.
TORB wrote:Anonymous wrote:While we are on it, how many calls a week do you get from Indian call centres? I'm averaging 2-4 a week, driving me mad.
Cheers
Me too, most of them trying to flog me phone services. I have a couple of answers that work.
1. I am not the boss so can't make any decisions.
2. Tell them you have a satellite service and ask them if they can provide one. That normally stops the conversation completely.
A polite 'no thanks' works well also
I get quite funny when they have my full name, adress, phone number and ontop of all this ring with a blocked number. All this despite Privacy laws.
I answer no questions and only ask them back. Where do you work? Whats your full name? Whats your job description? Then as they dodge and weave I tell them that I am very busy and ask what hours they work and tell them to give me their number and I will call them. Bottle of Grange if they give it to you, but hey its worth it just to get them on the back foot and listen to the stuttering.
My brother got a bill from an unknown company for about $500 about a year ago saying that he racked up these charges on his PC. One of those scams where your line gets redirected. He didnt pay it by the due date so a woman rings him threatining legal action and when he told them {firstly} there were privacy laws and he never submitted them his details so would counter sue and {secondly} was not home at the times recorded and could prove it by the monotoring records for the alarm system saying it was switched on and he wasnt near his PC or home at the time. She politley and wisely said we can forget it then. Good girl now go get a real job.
I answer no questions and only ask them back. Where do you work? Whats your full name? Whats your job description? Then as they dodge and weave I tell them that I am very busy and ask what hours they work and tell them to give me their number and I will call them. Bottle of Grange if they give it to you, but hey its worth it just to get them on the back foot and listen to the stuttering.
My brother got a bill from an unknown company for about $500 about a year ago saying that he racked up these charges on his PC. One of those scams where your line gets redirected. He didnt pay it by the due date so a woman rings him threatining legal action and when he told them {firstly} there were privacy laws and he never submitted them his details so would counter sue and {secondly} was not home at the times recorded and could prove it by the monotoring records for the alarm system saying it was switched on and he wasnt near his PC or home at the time. She politley and wisely said we can forget it then. Good girl now go get a real job.
we in USA have Do Not Call registry, http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall/
the list maintained by the Government and there are penalties for telemarketers to call you if you are registered.
Back in the day before the Registry, I used to talk at length with telemarketers, offering my book in exchange for whatever they were pushing. My favorite offering was:
"Necrophilia for Dummies".
If a man called, I asked him when was the last time he had sex,
after getting the answer I followed up with the question:
..and with a woman?
good 'ole days ...was a definate entertaintment breaking the day's routines
the list maintained by the Government and there are penalties for telemarketers to call you if you are registered.
Back in the day before the Registry, I used to talk at length with telemarketers, offering my book in exchange for whatever they were pushing. My favorite offering was:
"Necrophilia for Dummies".
If a man called, I asked him when was the last time he had sex,
after getting the answer I followed up with the question:
..and with a woman?
good 'ole days ...was a definate entertaintment breaking the day's routines
Sloution
As a responsible marketer, I ahve a resolution
Contact Australian Direct Marketing Association to get your name on the Do Not Contact List (www.adma.com.au)
This will ensure you do not get any DirectMarketing in both print and telephone again.
Calvin
Contact Australian Direct Marketing Association to get your name on the Do Not Contact List (www.adma.com.au)
This will ensure you do not get any DirectMarketing in both print and telephone again.
Calvin
CC,
Their site states "This service .... does not cover the registration of business information. And thats where I get daily requests to buy Art Union tickets, subscriptions in dodgie publications, advertising in all sorts of periodicals that are sent out free because the advertiser foots the bill; and the most anoying of all, the Indian call centres trying to sell me phone services - and theses are almost daily.
Their site states "This service .... does not cover the registration of business information. And thats where I get daily requests to buy Art Union tickets, subscriptions in dodgie publications, advertising in all sorts of periodicals that are sent out free because the advertiser foots the bill; and the most anoying of all, the Indian call centres trying to sell me phone services - and theses are almost daily.
Ric
ADMA does not cover business. ADMA and the federal government is currently implementing a National Do Not Contact List, similar to the US. This will stem out unethical marketers but also put alot of us (ethical) marketers out of a job. That is why we are continously advocating that marketers become responsible and only speak to people that wants to here from us.
I am the total opposite I love getting Junk Mail as it tells me what other marketers are doing and I use heaps of them in my lectures telling new marketers what works and what does not. Basically pointing out the flaws.
Some solutions:
Fax: Run all fax through your computers to delete junk fax (Saves paper)
Telephone: Have a welsome message before it rings through on the handset (most PABX or digital system are capable of this service). If you get a phone call tell them do not contact and if they do try again you can report them to the authorities
Mail: Use the bin
C
ADMA does not cover business. ADMA and the federal government is currently implementing a National Do Not Contact List, similar to the US. This will stem out unethical marketers but also put alot of us (ethical) marketers out of a job. That is why we are continously advocating that marketers become responsible and only speak to people that wants to here from us.
I am the total opposite I love getting Junk Mail as it tells me what other marketers are doing and I use heaps of them in my lectures telling new marketers what works and what does not. Basically pointing out the flaws.
Some solutions:
Fax: Run all fax through your computers to delete junk fax (Saves paper)
Telephone: Have a welsome message before it rings through on the handset (most PABX or digital system are capable of this service). If you get a phone call tell them do not contact and if they do try again you can report them to the authorities
Mail: Use the bin
C