st petes 02

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:12 pm

i know, i know... i'm still on the case (no pun intended)!!

st petes 02... $55 p/bot for 3 max....rip-off??... considering many have sold in the $40's price range.

is it going to be one of the great vintages... or just clever PR Hype??

Opinions sought...

many thanks

christo

Christo · Post by **Christo** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:13 pm

my bad... 'twas me!

christo

Twisted · Post by **Twisted** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:24 pm

The choice is yours, the retailer didn't put a gun on your head.

:twisted:

Christo · Post by **Christo** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:30 pm

thanks...

now what do you think about the wine?... will it be as good as the 98? or not even close?

Twisted · Post by **Twisted** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:33 pm

I bought the Chalambar 2003. Same rating by WFM.

:evil:

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:36 pm

Twisted,

r u the same guest "Confused" who posed the question to Cambell about his rating on WFM reagrding 03 chalambar & st petes??

Christo · Post by **Christo** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:05 pm

Twisted wrote:I bought the Chalambar 2003. Same rating by WFM.

Thanks for killing the thread :!:

Christo

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:39 pm

Christo,

I really don't understand your beef with Seppelt's. There are many wineries that charge more for purchases from cellar door than retailers do, for wines that have no where near as crazy as the hype that has enveloped the 02 St Peter's. I just think the rarity of this wine coupled with the glowing reports that have unfairly put the spotlight on them. For example, the last time I was at Magill Estate, they were asking for $70 for 1999 St. Henri. Hell, I got my 1999's a few weeks later for $50 a bottle. Now, what do you think about Penfold's? And what about wineries that up their prices by a few dollar each year? Are they ripping you off too? Sheesh...

Another thing you might like to note is that while retailers are given a RRP, they might well be charging less than that. At CD, they have to charge at the RRP that they recommend to retailers.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:04 am

Anonymous wrote:And what about wineries that up their prices by a few dollar each year? Are they ripping you off too? Sheesh...

Maybe, especially if the price goes up and the quality goes down... But then again, you have to actually buy to be ripped off.

Christo · Post by **Christo** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:41 am

Anonymous wrote:Christo,

I really don't understand your beef with Seppelt's. There are many wineries that charge more for purchases from cellar door than retailers do, for wines that have no where near as crazy as the hype that has enveloped the 02 St Peter's. I just think the rarity of this wine coupled with the glowing reports that have unfairly put the spotlight on them. For example, the last time I was at Magill Estate, they were asking for $70 for 1999 St. Henri. Hell, I got my 1999's a few weeks later for $50 a bottle. Now, what do you think about Penfold's? And what about wineries that up their prices by a few dollar each year? Are they ripping you off too? Sheesh...

Another thing you might like to note is that while retailers are given a RRP, they might well be charging less than that. At CD, they have to charge at the RRP that they recommend to retailers.

no beef with seppelt, sought opinions to the wines greatness. have reserved my allocation.

no malice intended in my questions.

christo

TORB · Post by **TORB** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:21 am

I tasted the wine 12 months ago and said it was the best St Peters I had tasted. The TN can be found on torbwine.

Vickie · Post by **Vickie** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:09 am

Hi Christo,

I was lucky enough to taste the St Peters 02 at WineAus and thought it was delicious. This week I took the plunge and bought it.

Like many others, I've been anticipating its release and frowned at the hype and low yields which I knew would be factored into the release price :cry:

re: value or being ripped off - only you can decide that.

Please note that I only have limited experience with St Peters - have only been buying from 1996 when it was known as Seppelt Great Western. IMHO, it was worth the price.

Good luck,
Vickie

Christo · Post by **Christo** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:50 pm

Thanks Ric & Vickie,

took the plunge & bought a six pack & have another dozen on hold. Will crack one open to try for myself. I sincerely appreciate your feedback.

Christo

camw · Post by **camw** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:45 pm

Looks like we are going to go through the same again in September, by all reports the '03 St Peters is outstanding as well. 1000 cases this time around.

Petaluma · Post by **Petaluma** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:48 pm

Please post notes

Christo · Post by **Christo** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:52 pm

camw wrote:Looks like we are going to go through the same again in September, by all reports the '03 St Peters is outstanding as well. 1000 cases this time around.

In comparison how many cases of the 2002 were made?

many thanks

christo

Murray · Post by **Murray** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:59 pm

Christo wrote:
camw wrote:Looks like we are going to go through the same again in September, by all reports the '03 St Peters is outstanding as well. 1000 cases this time around.

In comparison how many cases of the 2002 were made?

many thanks

christo

500 cases

btw the 2001 St Peters was released at the same price at CD last December as the 2002 is this year, no price rise for the trophy winning/reduced production wine.

TORB · Post by **TORB** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:10 pm

Petaluma wrote:Please post notes

If you want my note, it can be found on my site.

Davo · Post by **Davo** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:58 pm

Murray wrote:btw the 2001 St Peters was released at the same price at CD last December as the 2002 is this year, no price rise for the trophy winning/reduced production wine.

Not quite true.

I am sitting looking at a Seppelt pricelist as I type.

the 2001 St Peters had a RRP of $46.50

the 2002 St Peters has a RRP of $51.90.

But then I am not complaining as I think the wine is good value for money when compared to some of the stuff doing the rounds for more than 5 times the price.

Murray · Post by **Murray** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:29 am

Davo wrote:
Murray wrote:btw the 2001 St Peters was released at the same price at CD last December as the 2002 is this year, no price rise for the trophy winning/reduced production wine.

Not quite true.

I am sitting looking at a Seppelt pricelist as I type.

the 2001 St Peters had a RRP of $46.50

the 2002 St Peters has a RRP of $51.90.

But then I am not complaining as I think the wine is good value for money when compared to some of the stuff doing the rounds for more than 5 times the price.

Mea culpa, I was looking at a Drives Club Mailer from last December (that I didn't take up) which showed the $46.50 price I assumed this the buy price to members.

BTW another online retailer is showing the RRP of the 2001 as being $55.34 so I'll now edit my or8iginal post to say that and use that for the discussion instead.

and in any case I agree on the value for money in the marketplace