Dinner with a couple of 30-year olds
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Dinner with a couple of 30-year olds
Bet that got your attention.
Last week, my wife and I went to visit family in Brisbane and as she turns 30 in April, had the first of her birthday dinner/lunches (yes, there are probably 2 to come - her birthday is actually in April).
Dinner was at Bruno's Tables in Toowong. Chosen due to decent write-ups, french cuisine and the fact that it was BYO. Food was uniformly excellent, service pretty decent and a good time was had by all.
The "two 30-year olds" were both 1975 wines (my wife's birth year). they were:
Chateau Montrose
Burge & Wilson Cabernet (Barossa)
The Montrose was purchased from Dan Murphys ($100) and the B&W was bought at auction (thank you Mark) for a princely $26 or so. Both were really enjoyable, holding up well, with fruit, softened tannins and fair length. Of the two, the B&W was considered to be the better drink by most of the diners and it did have a softer, more volumptuous mouthfeel and texture. The Montrose was unsurprisingly a tad more austere, fairly astringent on the back palate but still soft and velvety at first sip. In short, I was really impressed by both wines and couldn't separate them because I really didn't have much of a basis for comparison. If I had to choose, it would be the Montrose because I thought it was more 'interesting' (yes, I know, a useless wine descriptor - but I rarely if ever get 'tobacco', 'cigar boc', 'cedar', 'plums/cherries/chocolate' or any other type of food: most reds taste like wine to me! ) but I was elated that both had stood the test of time and turned out to be enjoyable drinks.
Now I'll have to crack the Chateau Montrose 1975 Magnum - we'll see if that's any different.
-- George Krashos
Last week, my wife and I went to visit family in Brisbane and as she turns 30 in April, had the first of her birthday dinner/lunches (yes, there are probably 2 to come - her birthday is actually in April).
Dinner was at Bruno's Tables in Toowong. Chosen due to decent write-ups, french cuisine and the fact that it was BYO. Food was uniformly excellent, service pretty decent and a good time was had by all.
The "two 30-year olds" were both 1975 wines (my wife's birth year). they were:
Chateau Montrose
Burge & Wilson Cabernet (Barossa)
The Montrose was purchased from Dan Murphys ($100) and the B&W was bought at auction (thank you Mark) for a princely $26 or so. Both were really enjoyable, holding up well, with fruit, softened tannins and fair length. Of the two, the B&W was considered to be the better drink by most of the diners and it did have a softer, more volumptuous mouthfeel and texture. The Montrose was unsurprisingly a tad more austere, fairly astringent on the back palate but still soft and velvety at first sip. In short, I was really impressed by both wines and couldn't separate them because I really didn't have much of a basis for comparison. If I had to choose, it would be the Montrose because I thought it was more 'interesting' (yes, I know, a useless wine descriptor - but I rarely if ever get 'tobacco', 'cigar boc', 'cedar', 'plums/cherries/chocolate' or any other type of food: most reds taste like wine to me! ) but I was elated that both had stood the test of time and turned out to be enjoyable drinks.
Now I'll have to crack the Chateau Montrose 1975 Magnum - we'll see if that's any different.
-- George Krashos
Re: Dinner with a couple of 30-year olds
George Krashos wrote:The "two 30-year olds" were both 1975 wines (my wife's birth year). they were:
Chateau Montrose
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The Montrose was unsurprisingly a tad more austere, fairly astringent on the back palate but still soft and velvety at first sip.
Hmm, every book on Bordeaux I've ever read has referred to the 'hard tannic 1975s' and suggested that they will never soften, at least until the fruit is gone. That was just about everyone's opinion - Parker, Robinson, Broadbent, and I suspect Montrose was among the prime offenders in the vintage.
cheers,
Graeme
Re: Dinner with a couple of 30-year olds
GraemeG wrote:George Krashos wrote:The "two 30-year olds" were both 1975 wines (my wife's birth year). they were:
Chateau Montrose
...
The Montrose was unsurprisingly a tad more austere, fairly astringent on the back palate but still soft and velvety at first sip.
Hmm, every book on Bordeaux I've ever read has referred to the 'hard tannic 1975s' and suggested that they will never soften, at least until the fruit is gone. That was just about everyone's opinion - Parker, Robinson, Broadbent, and I suspect Montrose was among the prime offenders in the vintage.
cheers,
Graeme
Agree graeme. After trying and keeping a case of 1975 leoville las cases and ducru for nearly 20 years sent most of them off to auction - the tannins had already outlasted the fruit unfortunately. Originally thought a good vintage principally because it has been awful in bordeaux from 1991-1974 and everyone needed a good vintage to sell!! Sucked in
Gary W wrote:PaulV wrote:Gary W wrote:The '75 La Mission Haut Brion is very good.
GW
yeah I think you're right Gary - the right bank at least turned out some passable wines.
Left. You are driving on the wrong side of the road again Paul.
GW
hahahah - yeah you're right gary but only just. i always think of the graves area stuck in the middle of the city of bordeaux as part of the right bank group - maybe in the earthier style with higher levels of merlot etc.
Cheers
Paul
Gary W wrote:The '75 La Mission Haut Brion is very good.
GW
I see what you mean - saw this on another forum by jeff Leve
1975 La Mission Haut Brion was outrageous. As good as it was right out of the bottle, it continued improving all night. At 30 years of age, itÂ’s still not mature. If youÂ’re looking for elegance, donÂ’t stop here. But, if you want to experience a packed and stacked bottle of Bordeaux filled with deep, ripe, layers of fruit that take over every nook and cranny of your palate, you came to the right place. Tobacco, earth, wet forest aromas with olives, herbs and the smell of a hot brick oven need to be experienced to believed. This is a huge wine! Very extracted and concentrated. Wow! 97 Pts
PaulV wrote:Gary W wrote:The '75 La Mission Haut Brion is very good.
GW
I see what you mean - saw this on another forum by jeff Leve
1975 La Mission Haut Brion was outrageous. As good as it was right out of the bottle, it continued improving all night. At 30 years of age, itÂ’s still not mature. If youÂ’re looking for elegance, donÂ’t stop here. But, if you want to experience a packed and stacked bottle of Bordeaux filled with deep, ripe, layers of fruit that take over every nook and cranny of your palate, you came to the right place. Tobacco, earth, wet forest aromas with olives, herbs and the smell of a hot brick oven need to be experienced to believed. This is a huge wine! Very extracted and concentrated. Wow! 97 Pts
Yes and another even more famouser renowned taster on yet another forum said
"Chateau La Mission Haut Brion 1975
Widely regarded as the wine of the vintage and I think this might have been the first ever 100 point Parker wine....is that right GW??
Apparently undrinkable as a young'un this has now shed it's harsh tannins and is drinking impeccably. Classic Graves on the nose with blackcurrent, cedar, some salty minerally stuff, dried herbs and tobacco. The palate was beautifully integrated and is drinking at it's peak, lovely black fruit, cigar, cedar, liquorice,some truffley stuff and mineral hints. Super long finish and a complete wine.
98 Points"
We had it last year alongside the '65 Lindies Bin 3110 ...of course the Hunter prevailed as you would expect
GW
Gary W wrote:PaulV wrote:Gary W wrote:The '75 La Mission Haut Brion is very good.
GW
I see what you mean - saw this on another forum by jeff Leve
1975 La Mission Haut Brion was outrageous. As good as it was right out of the bottle, it continued improving all night. At 30 years of age, itÂ’s still not mature. If youÂ’re looking for elegance, donÂ’t stop here. But, if you want to experience a packed and stacked bottle of Bordeaux filled with deep, ripe, layers of fruit that take over every nook and cranny of your palate, you came to the right place. Tobacco, earth, wet forest aromas with olives, herbs and the smell of a hot brick oven need to be experienced to believed. This is a huge wine! Very extracted and concentrated. Wow! 97 Pts
Yes and another even more famouser renowned taster on yet another forum said
"Chateau La Mission Haut Brion 1975
Widely regarded as the wine of the vintage and I think this might have been the first ever 100 point Parker wine....is that right GW??
Apparently undrinkable as a young'un this has now shed it's harsh tannins and is drinking impeccably. Classic Graves on the nose with blackcurrent, cedar, some salty minerally stuff, dried herbs and tobacco. The palate was beautifully integrated and is drinking at it's peak, lovely black fruit, cigar, cedar, liquorice,some truffley stuff and mineral hints. Super long finish and a complete wine.
98 Points"
We had it last year alongside the '65 Lindies Bin 3110 ...of course the Hunter prevailed as you would expect
GW
Happy to be part of a La Mission Haut Brion offline - will bring the '82 a nice wine.
Paul
Re: Dinner with a couple of 30-year olds
George Krashos wrote: B&W was bought at auction (thank you Mark)
-- George Krashos
You're welcome George, glad your wife had a nice birthday.
Cheers
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