TN: Tahbilk Reserve Shiraz 1998

Mishy · Post by **Mishy** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:46 pm

Tight, heavy dry sediment clinging to the bottle. Decanted 4 hours.
Nose of black spice, sweet vanillin, coffee and smoked meat, and fun spicey salsa (peppers, tomatoes, onions, cilantro sort-of) . I do like the burnt smoke and red candy.
The palate was much less impressive - and sweet blackberry-cocoa, nasty and disjointed mocha powdered tannins, restrained pruney fruit, awkward acid and a short, bitter finish.
Disappointing.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:33 pm

I do not know the wine. I could be wrong. But it sounds like brettanomyces: liquid smoke. Bitter finish. Drying out prematurely. Deli flavours. All classic, possible, brettanomyces pointers.

But I could be wrong.

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:36 pm

I thought Brett was associated more with your barnyardy aromas?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:21 pm

Depends on what kind of brett it is. Or rather, whether it's 4-ep or 4-eg that is dominant. Barnyardy is known, in some circles, as 'good brett'. Metal, slimy ham, liquid smoke, mouse-poo are known as bad brett. This sounds like the bad brett part of the brett equation.

Serge Birbrair · Post by **Serge Birbrair** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:31 pm

Mishy, I love your sig!

"Well behaved women rarely make history"

Here is another from the same train of thought you might like:
...Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
Champagne in one hand -strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!...
(--- Unknown )

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:35 pm

Anonymous wrote:Depends on what kind of brett it is. Or rather, whether it's 4-ep or 4-eg that is dominant. Barnyardy is known, in some circles, as 'good brett'. Metal, slimy ham, liquid smoke, mouse-poo are known as bad brett. This sounds like the bad brett part of the brett equation.

Guest,

Just watch Ric or Brian doesn't chime in here with a post.

Gents, I believe you follow the philosophy "No Brett is good Brett"?

:lol:

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:21 pm

Serge wrote: Here is another from the same train of thought you might like:
...Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
Champagne in one hand -strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!...
(--- Unknown )

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