chalamber 2002

rorie · Post by **rorie** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:37 pm

When will this be available? I have read some very good reviews of this wine and was wondering when will it be available.
How much is it likely to cost and if anyone has any notes to share on this particular wine/vintage they would be most appreciated.

thankyou
rorie (hk)

Gavin Trott · Post by **Gavin Trott** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:21 pm

rorie wrote:When will this be available? I have read some very good reviews of this wine and was wondering when will it be available.
How much is it likely to cost and if anyone has any notes to share on this particular wine/vintage they would be most appreciated.

thankyou
rorie (hk)

Currently available, but amazingly allocated, tiny amounts only to many retailers ... well this one at least!

TORB · Post by **TORB** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:04 pm

Hi Rorie,

I tried the 01 a couple fo days prior to Plonk Oz and the 02 was one of the first wines I sampled at Plonk Oz. IMO, the 01 was a much better wine. tatsing note to follow in due course.

markg · Post by **markg** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:18 pm

I grabbed one yesterday to try this week sometime. Will let you know...

Adair · Post by **Adair** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:21 pm

TORB wrote:Hi Rorie,

I tried the 01 a couple fo days prior to Plonk Oz and the 02 was one of the first wines I sampled at Plonk Oz. IMO, the 01 was a much better wine. tatsing note to follow in due course.

Hey Ric,

I am getting bored of your promises. When are your OzPlonk tasting notes going to be available to the world? :wink:

Adair

Adair · Post by **Adair** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:21 pm

TORB wrote:Hi Rorie,

I tried the 01 a couple fo days prior to Plonk Oz and the 02 was one of the first wines I sampled at Plonk Oz. IMO, the 01 was a much better wine. tatsing note to follow in due course.

Hey Ric,

I am getting bored of your promises. When are your OzPlonk tasting notes going to be available to the world? :wink:

Adair

TORB · Post by **TORB** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:30 am

Adair,

Are volunteering for the unpaid position of official TORB Secretary? :shock:

To answer you question, as soon as I can get them typed up. The summary of plonk OZ has been put up on the home page ahead of the Irregular Update - just to stop your bitchin'. :roll:

Adair · Post by **Adair** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:22 am

TORB wrote:Adair,

Are volunteering for the unpaid position of official TORB Secretary?

To answer you question, as soon as I can get them typed up. The summary of plonk OZ has been put up on the home page ahead of the Irregular Update - just to stop your bitchin'.

I had your latest Torbwine before I even read this. Great response to reader dissatisfaction.

TORB Secretary...hmm... :roll:

Thanks,
Adair

markg · Post by **markg** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:27 am

I opened a bottle of the 2002 last night to try. Although it certainly had its merits and I am sure some would love it, it was too savoury for my tastes. There didn't seem to be any fruit sweetness in the entire package. Full on leather, herbs and spicy licorice, good finish and length but nothing in it I would care to cellar or taste again.

The 2001 had nice amount of fruit sweetnesss underlying the primary core of savoury flavours.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:49 am

Hi Mark,

Just out of interest, how long do you leave the bottle/ what kind of period did you drink the wine over?

Reason I ask is that I opened a bottle, thought it was good but a little soapy, a little savoury, a little floral ... I even wondered if it had low-level brett. After a few hours though it bloomed into an absolute cracker, and this morning it looks beautiful too. I love it. I want to buy some. I was unconvinced at wine oz, but looking at it over a period of time at home, I'm now convinced. Do you still have some left in the bottle? Can you look at it again tonight?

cheers Mark,

Campbell.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:49 am

Hi Mark,

Just out of interest, how long do you leave the bottle/ what kind of period did you drink the wine over?

Reason I ask is that I opened a bottle, thought it was good but a little soapy, a little savoury, a little floral ... I even wondered if it had low-level brett. After a few hours though it bloomed into an absolute cracker, and this morning it looks beautiful too. I love it. I want to buy some. I was unconvinced at wine oz, but looking at it over a period of time at home, I'm now convinced. Do you still have some left in the bottle? Can you look at it again tonight?

cheers Mark,

Campbell.

markg · Post by **markg** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:14 pm

Anonymous wrote:Hi Mark,

Just out of interest, how long do you leave the bottle/ what kind of period did you drink the wine over?

Reason I ask is that I opened a bottle, thought it was good but a little soapy, a little savoury, a little floral ... I even wondered if it had low-level brett. After a few hours though it bloomed into an absolute cracker, and this morning it looks beautiful too. I love it. I want to buy some. I was unconvinced at wine oz, but looking at it over a period of time at home, I'm now convinced. Do you still have some left in the bottle? Can you look at it again tonight?

cheers Mark,

Campbell.

Soapy, no.... unless it was my wife sitting next to me

- but I left about half a bottle out uncorked overnight and then corked and stuck it in the fridge this morning, so I will give it another try tonight.

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:28 pm

Rorie,
If you send me an email, I'll send you the wineries tasting notes and its accolades.

Regards
Garth

edited Gavin

Perhaps a pm not an email, no biggie, but the email address is clearly that of a competitor.

I'm pretty easy going, but advertising someone else's retail business on my forum is perhaps pushing things. :lol:

qwertt · Post by **qwertt** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:40 pm

Interesting to read Campbell's comments above after I posted the following comments on another web site about the Chalambar 2002:

Interesting wine. Double decanted on opening, but still tasted a bit strange - almost thought it was the elusive Brett. Didn't like it much at that point. an hour later it was becoming richer and sweeter and reasonably tasty. Finished the last of it after about 4 hours. Really liked it by then. Very fine tannins and deep rich flavour, but no crust, unlike earlier vintages. Seemed to have a lot more of the Bendigo shiraz flavour than Grampian (ie, more earth than sweet burgundy). Certainly very different from my favourite 2000, which is much lighter in colour and flavour, but with the same intensity. A very good wine and excellent value for money.

markg · Post by **markg** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:16 pm

Anonymous wrote:Hi Mark,

Just out of interest, how long do you leave the bottle/ what kind of period did you drink the wine over?

Reason I ask is that I opened a bottle, thought it was good but a little soapy, a little savoury, a little floral ... I even wondered if it had low-level brett. After a few hours though it bloomed into an absolute cracker, and this morning it looks beautiful too. I love it. I want to buy some. I was unconvinced at wine oz, but looking at it over a period of time at home, I'm now convinced. Do you still have some left in the bottle? Can you look at it again tonight?

cheers Mark,

Campbell.

Ok, stayed in the fridge until last night then let it get to room temperature... It is a very nice wine but I still stand by my original tasting, I cannot get any fruit sweetness from the package. Loads of everything else but nothing in the fruit sweetness spectrum unless it was buried. However, saying that it had bucket loads of intense flavours, wonderfully integrated tannins and superb length. I really am in two minds whether or not to get any... Perhaps just a 6 pack...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:29 pm

There's no doubt that the Chalambar 2002 got better as the evening progressed. The bottle I tasted was OK on opening, and then a cracker the next evening after 1/3 was left (with cork inserted) in the bottle overnight. What all this says to me is that this baby's time is yet to come. After a few years in the cellar. Maybe the straight Victorian Shiraz ($14 odd) is better to drink now?

Lincoln · Post by **Lincoln** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:02 pm

Anonymous wrote:There's no doubt that the Chalambar 2002 got better as the evening progressed. The bottle I tasted was OK on opening, and then a cracker the next evening after 1/3 was left (with cork inserted) in the bottle overnight. What all this says to me is that this baby's time is yet to come. After a few years in the cellar. Maybe the straight Victorian Shiraz ($14 odd) is better to drink now?

Yes, I enjoyed it too. Is it 100% Shiraz, or have they put some other varietals in there as well?

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