Ian S wrote:1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.
bloody hell i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well what do you reckon ? keep or flick ?
2013 tout pres by Farr Just an outstanding wine. Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present. No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty. Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more
Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr Just an outstanding wine. Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present. No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty. Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more
Ian S wrote:1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.
bloody hell i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well what do you reckon ? keep or flick ?
It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.
Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr Just an outstanding wine. Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present. No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty. Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more
Stop drinking them I had a 6 pack
I have 3 left....
Excellent, I buried a case at the back of the cellar and so far have resisted trying any. Any chances on how long to leave it before cracking the case open to try one?
Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr Just an outstanding wine. Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present. No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty. Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more
Stop drinking them I had a 6 pack
I have 3 left....
Excellent, I buried a case at the back of the cellar and so far have resisted trying any. Any chances on how long to leave it before cracking the case open to try one?
rooman wrote: Excellent, I buried a case at the back of the cellar and so far have resisted trying any. Any chances on how long to leave it before cracking the case open to try one?
Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr Just an outstanding wine. Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present. No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty. Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more
Stop drinking them I had a 6 pack
I have 3 left....
thanks michel you not only gave me the best laugh I've had all week but some reinforcement of confidence in palate I only got 2 so I have a lot harder job than you of seeing this through
Bobthebuilder wrote:2013 tout pres by Farr Just an outstanding wine. Earthy and savoury, yet sweet ripe fruit and substantial oak ever so present. No flavour dominates, they all just meld together beautifully and form a complex beauty. Would imagine these will cellar very nicely for the next decade or more
Stop drinking them I had a 6 pack
I have 3 left....
thanks michel you not only gave me the best laugh I've had all week but some reinforcement of confidence in palate I only got 2 so I have a lot harder job than you of seeing this through
Ian S wrote:1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.
bloody hell i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well what do you reckon ? keep or flick ?
It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.
IMO flick if the price is good. It aint going to get any better. It's Adelaide Plains fruit. No more no less. Drink the wine not the label.
Chuck
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michel wrote: bloody hell i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well what do you reckon ? keep or flick ?
It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.
IMO flick if the price is good. It aint going to get any better. It's Adelaide Plains fruit. No more no less. Drink the wine not the label.
Chuck
I kinda like the more restrained fruit with French rather than American oak but I 100% get your point. If I dont drink this in Winter this year with my school friends from Grade 4 then I will gift or sell. Being a magnum with excellent provenance I reckon it will be young still....
Ian S wrote: 1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.
bloody hell i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well what do you reckon ? keep or flick ?
It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.
IMO flick if the price is good. It aint going to get any better. It's Adelaide Plains fruit. No more no less. Drink the wine not the label.
Chuck
Hold on, Chuck, is that really correct?
The Magill Estate vineyard is - as far as I know - neither located within the boundaries of the 'Adelaide Plains' wine region nor within the 'Adelaide Hills' wine region (AGI). As it sits outside the boundaries of these two wine regions it probably can be described as part of the 'Mount Lofty' wine zone. I thought with its elevated position at the western slopes of the Adelaide Hills its terroir might be more similar to the Adelaide Hills than the Adelaide Plains.
BTW, Adelaide Plains wine can be quite good. Domenic Torzi and Tim Freeland make an excellent shiraz (Power of One) and grenache (Terreno Old Vine) under the Old Plains label.
Ian S wrote: 1998 Penfolds Magill Estate Shiraz Ok, it's probably lost a little over-exuberance and has a degree of balance/restraint, but there really isn't a heap of complexity. It has me questioning whether it was worth cellaring. Not bad, just somewhat uninteresting.
bloody hell i have a magnum of this purchased at release and stored well what do you reckon ? keep or flick ?
It might be a matter of different tastes, so definitely seek opinions from people less grumpy about cellared South Australian Shiraz It's not falling over, so no need to rush into a decision.
IMO flick if the price is good. It aint going to get any better. It's Adelaide Plains fruit. No more no less. Drink the wine not the label.
Chuck
Hold on, Chuck, is that really correct?
The Magill Estate vineyard is - as far as I know - neither located within the boundaries of the 'Adelaide Plains' wine region nor within the 'Adelaide Hills' wine region (AGI). As it sits outside the boundaries of these two wine regions it probably can be described as part of the 'Mount Lofty' wine zone. I thought with its elevated position at the western slopes of the Adelaide Hills its terroir might be more similar to the Adelaide Hills than the Adelaide Plains.
BTW, Adelaide Plains wine can be quite good. Domenic Torzi and Tim Freeland make an excellent shiraz (Power of One) and grenache (Terreno Old Vine) under the Old Plains label.
Cheers, Mario
Not sure what region it lies in the but it's closer to the Adelaide Plains in climate. The evening gully winds during Adelaide's summer do provide some cooling relief from the stinking hot days but IMO it has little Adelaide Hills flavours. More warmer climate than cool.
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Jamie, quite frankly that dinner and wines looks simply superb. What is a boxed dozen of d'queum worth...12g? Good luck to you, will be in about the 5th life before I see wine of that calibre. Cheers Craig
2007 Port Phillip Estate Rimage Shiraz - probably left this one a little long. Very close to being devoid of any fruit but not a bad food wine. Nothing sticking out but not really exciting either.
The 1983 looked great initially, a little more developed but it was encapsulated within a fine structure and overall balance. I rated it quite well with a note that it was more developed. On second pass, it had a palate impurity, many suspected TCA and hence it was rated last out of the 12 !
Hope there's something positive from that.
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FYI just opened Moss Wood 2001 cabernet SC wow Intense pefumed berries and length of palate Getting ready for the Father in Laws Birthday dinner I am very impressed
michel wrote:No rush to drink good provenance 2001 Moss Wood cabernet- my next will be in 5 years....
Any notes on the 01 MW? I have 2 of them and am getting a little twichie.
Screwcap Purchased cellar door Cellared well
First aromas are heady and powerful with wonderful brambly berries No bricking in colour still vivid & young Palate has unresolved tannins & plenty of acid I loved this immediately 6 hours later with the in laws it had settled into a lovely weave of fruit acid The in laws both loved the wine and asked to see the bottle and were gobsmacked to see it was 16 years young It is drinking beautifully now but will repay more time I reckon grass fed beef medium rare would suit
Random spur of the moment purchase, bit of age on it for around $35, really enjoying it. Soft and supple with a bit of grip, classic iron filings, blood with dark plums and a dustiness on the back palate.
michel wrote:No rush to drink good provenance 2001 Moss Wood cabernet- my next will be in 5 years....
Any notes on the 01 MW? I have 2 of them and am getting a little twichie.
Screwcap Purchased cellar door Cellared well
First aromas are heady and powerful with wonderful brambly berries No bricking in colour still vivid & young Palate has unresolved tannins & plenty of acid I loved this immediately 6 hours later with the in laws it had settled into a lovely weave of fruit acid The in laws both loved the wine and asked to see the bottle and were gobsmacked to see it was 16 years young It is drinking beautifully now but will repay more time I reckon grass fed beef medium rare would suit
Thanks Michel
I will look forward to these ones. Picked up a few years back from auction so fingers crossed.
