2010 Vintage Suggestions

[Redav]

You shouldn't have too much trouble finding 2010 389 if you want some, now or later at auction, and it comes with a pretty bulletproof track record on cellarability.

So I've managed to find some (2010 Bin 407 too) but now I'm stumped as to whether to get just one for a milestone or grab four (one for now to try it young and three for the cellar) just to see how they go over time (there's a part of this which is an experiment because we've never consumed aged wine and don't know what to expect)

[sjw_11]

You shouldn't have too much trouble finding 2010 389 if you want some, now or later at auction, and it comes with a pretty bulletproof track record on cellarability.

So I've managed to find some (2010 Bin 407 too) but now I'm stumped as to whether to get just one for a milestone or grab four (one for now to try it young and three for the cellar) just to see how they go over time (there's a part of this which is an experiment because we've never consumed aged wine and don't know what to expect)

Just a thought, if you have never consumed aged wine before, I would recommend hopping onto one of the auction sites (Oddbins, Langtons or Wickhams) and picking up a random assortment of variously aged wines... you should find plenty to seek out in the $20-50 price range and then you can get a sense if you actually like aged wine!

As it seems to me different people have different tastes in this (there are quite a few threads on here on this topic if you search).

Just do be aware when buying at auction it can be a lottery and if you think the wine is rubbish it may be it was poorly stored rather than meaning you dont like aged wine, but I have to say I spent a few grand with Oddbins over a couple of years, never really buying anything over about $40 and had a very good success rate ....

[calm]

Are there many Wynns / Lehmman wines in the $20 - $45 range that are particularly worth a look at (I'm thinking drink now / short term keepers, not for the anniversary idea)?

I have some 2010 Lehman The Mentor tucked away based on reputation, haven't tried as yet.

[Mike Hawkins]

I just had an 82 and and 86 Mt Edelstone and they were both sensational. The remainder of my 82s probably need to be consumed in th next few years, but the well stored 86s should go on for some time. As such, I would have complete confidence in well cellared 2010s going the distance, save for a bad batch of corks.

Cheers

Mike

[Redav]

Thanks for the suggestions, I'm still ponding on some and I'm still open to more suggestions as I think I might try and fill the gaps between 'significant' years. For the moment, I've removed the 4 Acres from the list so at present the wine pool looks like;
(in no particular order)

Penfolds Bin 407 Cabernet Sauvignon
Penfolds Bin 389 Cabernet Shiraz
Peter Lehmman Stonewell Shiraz
Rockford Basket Pressed Shiraz
Henschke Mt Edelstone Shiraz

I can also pick up;
Moss Wood Cabernet Sauvignon
Henschke Cyril Henschke Cabernet Sauvignon

And I would like to find;
Penfolds St Henri (but I'm not holding my breath)
Wynn's John Riddoch Cabernet Sauvignon (might also take patience)

I'm now wondering two things;
- if you were to pick five for 'significant' years (5 year gaps), which ones would they be?
- what order would you drink them in?

[mjs]

Having had a couple of visits to CD over the last two months, I would add

2010 Laira 171 Cabernet Sauvignon
2010 Majella The Malleea Cabernet Shiraz

to your list. Both around the $60-70 and up amongst the best 2010 Coonawarra wines I have tried, including the JR.

If you want to go nuts and get something really sensational, you could always opt for

2010 Penfolds Bin 169 Coonawarra Cabernet

Significantly more expensive unfortunately.

[Hunter]

2010 Tappa's Pass..
What a wine ...
And a fair price

[Hunter]

Having had a couple of visits to CD over the last two months, I would add

2010 Laira 171 Cabernet Sauvignon
2010 Majella The Malleea Cabernet Shiraz

to your list. Both around the $60-70 and up amongst the best 2010 Coonawarra wines I have tried, including the JR.

If you want to go nuts and get something really sensational, you could always opt for

2010 Penfolds Bin 169 Coonawarra Cabernet

I cant wait too tuck into the couple I have..

Significantly more expensive unfortunately.

[felixp]

spend $1000 and buy a six pack of Grand Puy Lacoste. Awesome wine, and not expensive, even in Australia

[Redav]

2010 Tappa's Pass..
What a wine ...
And a fair price

I'm keen on trying one of them. I haven't seen one around though

spend $1000 and buy a six pack of Grand Puy Lacoste. Awesome wine, and not expensive, even in Australia

I like your thinking but I suspect that if I did that, we wouldn't make it to the point of drinking it

So I have decided to fold the 2010's that we already had into regular intervals for the next 10 years (389's, a 407, Keyneton Euphonium's and some Rockford Moppa's) leaving me with the following;

2020 - Rockford Rifle Range Cabernet Sauvignon
2025 - Rockford Basket Pressed Shiraz
2026 - Penfolds 386 Cabernet Shiraz
2027 - Henschke Mount Edelstone Shiraz
2028 - Moss Wood Cabernet Sauvignon
2029 - Peter Lehmann Stonewell Shiraz
2030 - Henschke Cyril Henschke Cabernet Sauvignon

I'm interested in hearing any suggestions on changing the order of those wines. I'd imagine that it might be much of a muchness over a five year window at the tail end of the list but are there any should be consumed sooner than later? The BPS is the only cork and they'll all sit in a fridge at 12 degrees.

[Bobthebuilder]

Seriously, there is a lot of very good to excellent 2010 Coonawarra Cab. Katnook, Balnaves, Bowen, Wynns, Leconfield, Majella, the list goes on.

Hi Malcom,

Have you tried any of the mildara 2010 cab?
Just asking because I know the coona cabs are right up your alley and I've had a lot of pleasant experiences with mildara
There's no notes on the 2010 on cellar tracker yet

Cheers,
Nic

[Redav]

*thread mine*
i.e. this started a coupla years ago...

We recently picked up a 2010 BPS Magnum from Rockford which leaves me with a 'dilemma'; which year to drink? We had a Rifle Range for our 5th (quite nice although I'm not sure that it had evolved much as yet), I have a second RR for our 10th and a standard BPS for our 15th.

I know Robert reckons to give the BPS ten years before opening but how long can it go? I read in an old Rockford Rag (1999) where he tasted verticals of his 'keepers' and he said that his oldest BPS were probably good for drinking at that 10 - 15 year mark. Would it be unreasonable to expect (hope) a 2010 standard to go 15 years too (CellarTracker 'suggested dates' are 2018 - 2027)? Considering the magnum should evolve slower than a standard, could it go for twenty?

I know that it's better to drink a wine too young than too old but would it be prudent to pull those dates in?

[rens]

It would depend on your tastes. If you like Shiraz old and have good storage then why not give it a crack. Otherwise I'd drink the Magnum at 15.

[Mike Hawkins]

*thread mine*
i.e. this started a coupla years ago...

We recently picked up a 2010 BPS Magnum from Rockford which leaves me with a 'dilemma'; which year to drink? We had a Rifle Range for our 5th (quite nice although I'm not sure that it had evolved much as yet), I have a second RR for our 10th and a standard BPS for our 15th.

I know Robert reckons to give the BPS ten years before opening but how long can it go? I read in an old Rockford Rag (1999) where he tasted verticals of his 'keepers' and he said that his oldest BPS were probably good for drinking at that 10 - 15 year mark. Would it be unreasonable to expect (hope) a 2010 standard to go 15 years too (CellarTracker 'suggested dates' are 2018 - 2027)? Considering the magnum should evolve slower than a standard, could it go for twenty?

I know that it's better to drink a wine too young than too old but would it be prudent to pull those dates in?

For my tastes, the 90 and 91 are right in the zone now.... 10-15 years is conservative if you store them well

[mjs]

Seriously, there is a lot of very good to excellent 2010 Coonawarra Cab. Katnook, Balnaves, Bowen, Wynns, Leconfield, Majella, the list goes on.

Hi Malcom,

Have you tried any of the mildara 2010 cab?
Just asking because I know the coona cabs are right up your alley and I've had a lot of pleasant experiences with mildara
There's no notes on the 2010 on cellar tracker yet

Cheers,
Nic

Nic,
Sorry I haven't responded to this. I do indeed have some 2010 Mildara Cabernet in the cellar, but haven't pulled any bottles out to try. It's been available at insane prices, maybe close to $15 at the time, and really is a forgotten hero of Coonawarra. Always medium bodied, perhaps some mint (not as much as '63), fruit, structure, acid and tannin, everything you need for longevity. Have been accumulating it a bit over the years as it has been excellent value, I think '12 was my last vintage.
I just remember the excellent things Mildara was doing with various red blends and even whites, in the late 70's, early 80's. CD now gone of course, I suspect the cab is now made at Wynns.
Cheers, Malcolm

[Redav]

It would depend on your tastes. If you like Shiraz old and have good storage then why not give it a crack. Otherwise I'd drink the Magnum at 15.

That's something we've not worked out yet and I guess a part of why I'm doing this (to see how some of the wines progress over time). I should probably find some of these wines with some age and see what we think. We've had a couple young to see what they're like as a point of reference.

For my tastes, the 90 and 91 are right in the zone now.... 10-15 years is conservative if you store them well

Yup, righto, good to know. Most of these were sourced after we picked up a wine cabinet but the 2010 RR and BPS sat in our pantry for maybe a year. I expect they'll be fine though.

[rens]

It would depend on your tastes. If you like Shiraz old and have good storage then why not give it a crack. Otherwise I'd drink the Magnum at 15.

That's something we've not worked out yet and I guess a part of why I'm doing this (to see how some of the wines progress over time). I should probably find some of these wines with some age and see what we think. We've had a couple young to see what they're like as a point of reference.

I think that would be a real good idea. Go to a reputable auction house and grab yourself a dozen or so across good vintages (1996, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2004). Wickmans gives you details of provenance where as other houses do not (which is why some on here refer to an auction as the lottery). If you know the provenance then you have greater chance of picking up a bottle that will reflect the wines you are cellaring.