Best Temperature to store wine for a longgg time ?

[wineboy]

Hi Everyone,

Sorry to keep on a similar subject but im just wondering what everyone thinks in terms of storing Red Wine (Grange) for a long period of time.

What is the ideal temperature in our ozy climate you all think for a WINE CELLAR FRIDGE ?
13 Degrees ? or cooler like 12 ?...............or 14 Degree's around there ???

Interested what everyone thinks.

Bearing in mind humidity will be around 60-70% on average

[Dan]

There are lots of opinions on this, like I said I think 13 is good, but you should really do some research yourself so you can make an informed decision.

Read some books: Jancis Robinson's Wine course is a good book to start with.

[wineboy]

Yeah im just wondering what alot of people think.
It seems on oversea's websites they believe 55 degrees Fahrenheit is ideal which equates to: 12.7 degrees celcius.

[Mike Hawkins]

If its longer than usual, then go colder. Otherwise 13 degrees

[wineboy]

If its longer than usual, then go colder. Otherwise 13 degrees

Sorry you mean if i plan on keeping them stored PAST there suggested PEAK drinking date (according to Penfolds) then set it colder like 12 degrees ??

[winenovice]

Mike is coming from the fact that theoretically the colder the temperature a bottle of wine is stored in, the slower it will mature.

Seeing it will be stored for a longgg time, by which Mike assumed to mean ''longer than usual, by all means go colder.Otherwise, 13 degrees''.

[Luke W]

I have a mate who has put about 50 bottles of white wine in a fridge downstairs and started this about 30 years ago. Every so often we drag one out and try it. Last time we dragged out a 1991 Great Southern Riesling that was just superb. All of mine reached their use by date a decade ago at 15 degrees. His fridge stays at 4 degrees which is about the temp that those champers were at the bottom of the ocean (now $75000 a pop!). His fridge would have some vibration but is rarely opened. Maybe u should reduce your temp as much as possible (your wine however may not mature as quickly but it sounds like u don't want it to).

[wineboy]

Ive dropped the temperature to 13 degrees and it seems very very steady and hardly fluctuating...so this may be the best temperature.
According to my observations and average's ive seen....so far the lowest reading has been 11.9 degrees and the highest 13.2 degrees.
With lowest humidity reading at 55% and highest 76 %

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Why not go straight to the source? If you are looking at exclusively Grange, maybe give Penfolds a ring and get an answer from the horses mouth so to speak. They would be the best advice on their own product i would think??

[wineboy]

Why not go straight to the source? If you are looking at exclusively Grange, maybe give Penfolds a ring and get an answer from the horses mouth so to speak. They would be the best advice on their own product i would think??

Well i did do this, but the customer service staff there were only referring to the Current Rewards of patience book version 7 (2012) and said 14-16 degrees.
But i think they say this so that your bottle can get to its predicted peak drinking according to what they recommend with temperature.

[Mike Hawkins]

To clarify my earlier statement, if you have a wine that should theoretically peak in 15 years, but want to cellar it for 30+ years, I'd suggest 10 of less degrees (the reference earlier to the Champagne found at the bottom of the sea is a good benchmark). That said, if the cork isn't perfect, you might well have vinegar in the future.

[wineboy]

To clarify my earlier statement, if you have a wine that should theoretically peak in 15 years, but want to cellar it for 30+ years, I'd suggest 10 of less degrees (the reference earlier to the Champagne found at the bottom of the sea is a good benchmark). That said, if the cork isn't perfect, you might well have vinegar in the future.

Ok i understand.
Ive set it at 13 and am happy with it regulating that 13 degrees between 11.7 > 13.5 with average humidity at 67%.
Ill be taking all of my 90's collection of Grange as well as my 70's collection to the Penfolds clinic this year for re-corking/topping up.....so fingers crossed they are all ok then ill know the temperature ive currently got it at will keep them in good order for 20-30 years+

[Diddy]

Ive dropped the temperature to 13 degrees and it seems very very steady and hardly fluctuating...so this may be the best temperature.
According to my observations and average's ive seen....so far the lowest reading has been 11.9 degrees and the highest 13.2 degrees.
With lowest humidity reading at 55% and highest 76 %

I'd also recommend putting your best bottles down the bottom of the fridge.

My wine fridge can fluctuate by a couple of degrees between top and bottom on a warm day.