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Australia vs France - Terror or Terrior?
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:12 pm
by El Josho
Team,
I'm off to Provence on the weekend, and am being hosted by a bloke in the Wine trade.
Good-natured challenges along the lines of 'Our Reds vs Yours' have been issued by the Old World party and so I have to provide one Australian Northern Rhone style, one Southern Rhone style and one Burgundy that can expected to hold quarter and give a good show. For reference, we're keeping it simple with a per bottle cap of £30.
I have a few ideas already, but would like to know your thoughts on what you would include.
Cheers,
El Josho
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:48 pm
by monghead
Now, is a northern Rhone style an SV, and a southern Rhone a GSM or vice versa???
If so, suggestions:
SV- Clonakilla
GSM- Teusner Avatar, Charles Melton Nine Popes, others will say Torbreck Steading
Burgundy- Wantirna, Epis, Bass Philip
Bordeaux- Moss Wood, Cullen
Cheers,
Monghead.
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:58 pm
by Loztralia
Tight on the price, but could you squeeze a Jack Mann into the bordeaux category?
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:14 am
by griff
If you want pure Australia then the Peter Lehmann eight songs 2004. If a rhone style then perhaps the Clonakilla O'Riada Shiraz.
Southern Rhone I would go with the Spinifex Papillon 06, John Duval Plexus, Teusner Avatar as monghead suggested. An old d'arry original would be a nice ringer
If grenache only then the Samuel Gorge is an absolute cracker that would be the one to beat.
No idea about pinot. I think the Hoddles 08 that I am drinking right now would be a good ringer as value-wise France would be wetting themselves. Otherwise maybe the Savaterre or a Kooyong Haven.
No Bordeaux style needed? No sweeties either?
cheers
Carl
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:38 am
by Rawshack
Hmm...
For the Bordeaux I'd look at something from Coonawarra like a Parker or a Majella
Burgundy - Williams Crossing Pinot; made by Curly Flat in Macendon, you'll get a McDonalds Cheeseburger in the change
Rhone... Well, the worlds your oyster here, you can go either the Shiraz/Viogner route, or the GSM. Not sure of the price, but Charlie Meltons Nine Popes would be an obvious choice. Otherwise how about a Turners Crossing Shiraz/Viogner from Bendigo; Varietal and regional qualities in that, with change from $30
You could of course go down the white route too...
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:59 am
by JF
I think the limit is 30 quid not 30 dollars.
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:09 pm
by rooman
SV- Clonakilla or for straight version one of the Brokenwood Graveyards
GSM- Charles Melton Nine Popes, (they have the oldest track record)
Burgundy- Main Ridge Half Acre or Savaterre
Bordeaux- Moss Wood,
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:04 pm
by monghead
rooman wrote:Burgundy- Main Ridge Half Acre
Nice one, forgot about them. Would definitely second that.
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:24 am
by Julio G
rhone blend - I would go for a d'Arenberg Ironstone Pressings
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:21 am
by JamieH
don't like your chances of finding one but i concur with the clonakilla sv call, otherwise henschke mt edelstone, seppelt st peters or bests bin 0 (the white labeled one) shiraz. southern torbreck the steading, john duval plexus, nine popes. burgundy is of course a minefield, do you know what your competeing againest??? (my spelling is terrible sorry).
Jamie
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:14 pm
by El Josho
Thanks all. In the end time and availability got away from me, so I went for a Dead Arm, Schild Estate Barossa GSM and Ten Minutes by Tractor 10X Pinot.
I shall report back on my Gallic friend's contribution to the debate.