i'm considering transporting my wine collection from europe to australia. i'm also considering using temperature controlled transport (though havn't yet assessed the cost of this). the amount of wine is not that large (6-7 cases). customs duty (wet etc) aside, i am wondering what the best methods of transport are? what precautions can i take to pack the wine to prevent heat damage etc?
what do you guys think?
cheers,
rob.
wine transport
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robwolters_nl
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Rob
I don't know about prices, but perhaps Gavin could give you the name of an importer who might be willing to add it to any shipping they've got planned so as to share costs. Might mean shipping it within Europe and then on to Australia with the importer.
Is the wine in bond or duty and tax paid? If it's duty and tax paid, expect to get hit again for WET and GST which IIRC is about 40% of the value. I understand some customs guys are ok about this and accept a notional value rather than true value.
I suspect a few others here have specific experience of this, but the impression I've got to date is that it's better to drink your stocks before you leave - not so easy if the bottles are young classed growth Bdx. If you could get it down to a case or two of absolute favourites, then it may even be easier to take it yourself as excess baggage. Worth getting a quote for that. A case of wine is about 9kg's. and the moulded polystyrene inserts for boxes are excellent for the task.
regards
Ian
I don't know about prices, but perhaps Gavin could give you the name of an importer who might be willing to add it to any shipping they've got planned so as to share costs. Might mean shipping it within Europe and then on to Australia with the importer.
Is the wine in bond or duty and tax paid? If it's duty and tax paid, expect to get hit again for WET and GST which IIRC is about 40% of the value. I understand some customs guys are ok about this and accept a notional value rather than true value.
I suspect a few others here have specific experience of this, but the impression I've got to date is that it's better to drink your stocks before you leave - not so easy if the bottles are young classed growth Bdx. If you could get it down to a case or two of absolute favourites, then it may even be easier to take it yourself as excess baggage. Worth getting a quote for that. A case of wine is about 9kg's. and the moulded polystyrene inserts for boxes are excellent for the task.
regards
Ian
Ian S wrote:Rob
I don't know about prices, but perhaps Gavin could give you the name of an importer who might be willing to add it to any shipping they've got planned so as to share costs. Might mean shipping it within Europe and then on to Australia with the importer.
Is the wine in bond or duty and tax paid? If it's duty and tax paid, expect to get hit again for WET and GST which IIRC is about 40% of the value. I understand some customs guys are ok about this and accept a notional value rather than true value.
I suspect a few others here have specific experience of this, but the impression I've got to date is that it's better to drink your stocks before you leave - not so easy if the bottles are young classed growth Bdx. If you could get it down to a case or two of absolute favourites, then it may even be easier to take it yourself as excess baggage. Worth getting a quote for that. A case of wine is about 9kg's. and the moulded polystyrene inserts for boxes are excellent for the task.
regards
Ian
Small issue Ian - a case of wine is about 16kg. The liquid alone in 12 btls would weigh 9!
Andrew
Yes, I was thinking of 6 bottles!
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robwolters_nl
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thanks for the replies. the wine is duty and tax paid so i realise i could be up for around a 40-45% hit in tax. what i'm not too sure about is where the cost of the wine is taken from: is this something the importer provides, or does customs have some kind of price list themselves? at the end of the day, i may start sending by mail, and see how it goes.
thanks.
rob.
thanks.
rob.
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Mahmoud Ali
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Rob, I don't know howu haveyou have been in Europe but if you were living and working there perhaps you may be able to bring them into the country as your cellar, part of your household goods. I admit that I don't know the rules but it certainly seems to be worth a try. If there is a way to do this you may have to proove that the wines were purchased over a period of time as well as having been purchased six or more months prior to your departure.
What has me thinking about this is that I used to hear that in certain countries diplomats were allowed to bring home automobiles duty free provided they were used and had been purchased at least six month prior to shipment.
Its worth a try. Good luck.................Mahmoud.
PS: If a wine cellar cannot be included as part of houshold goods when moving to Australia then it would certainly be the biggest reason why I could never contemplate a move from Canada.
What has me thinking about this is that I used to hear that in certain countries diplomats were allowed to bring home automobiles duty free provided they were used and had been purchased at least six month prior to shipment.
Its worth a try. Good luck.................Mahmoud.
PS: If a wine cellar cannot be included as part of houshold goods when moving to Australia then it would certainly be the biggest reason why I could never contemplate a move from Canada.
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Mahmoud Ali
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Rob, another thought. When I was last in Australia I had a friend in Canada who helped me ship some wines back home. He was an importer of Australian wines and he offered to ship any wines I bought in Australia as his duty free samples. The only proviso was that there could be no more than six bottles of any given wine.
When he made me this offer I realised in my mind's eye that this would be an expensive proposition. Although it would only cost me C$36 a case to ship the wines from Australia to Canada (a real bargain for which I am eternally gratefull), by the time I left Australia I had 15 cases of wine!!! It was the most expensive 'best deal' I ever had.
No regrets though, and although the wines were purchased in 2001 and most of the wines were from the 1998, 1999 and 2000 vintages, I still have them in my cellar.
The point I am trying to make is that perhaps you may be able to find an exporter/importer to/from Australia/Europe that may be able to include your wines as "samples" in their shipment. Also worth a try.
Cheers............Mahmoud.
When he made me this offer I realised in my mind's eye that this would be an expensive proposition. Although it would only cost me C$36 a case to ship the wines from Australia to Canada (a real bargain for which I am eternally gratefull), by the time I left Australia I had 15 cases of wine!!! It was the most expensive 'best deal' I ever had.
No regrets though, and although the wines were purchased in 2001 and most of the wines were from the 1998, 1999 and 2000 vintages, I still have them in my cellar.
The point I am trying to make is that perhaps you may be able to find an exporter/importer to/from Australia/Europe that may be able to include your wines as "samples" in their shipment. Also worth a try.
Cheers............Mahmoud.