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Friday Quiz
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:00 am
by Quizmaster
Who/What/etc am I?
I’m a varietal blend
I am fermented in stainless steel
My earliest vintages were limited production of less than 200 cases
I am aged in oak for between a year or two
Two individuals developed my line
Descriptors of some my vintages have included: concentrated fruit, classy, complex, rich, sweet fruit, liquorice, leathery, mammoth,
My inaugural vintage was produced from a hot, dry season
My previous vintage was considered disappointing, a reflection of the poor season
My vintage was considered to be good to excellent.
I am a Shiraz Cabernet blend
I am not a single vineyard vintage
I am a 90% Shiraz, 10% Cabernet blend
What wine and vintage am I?
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:40 pm
by Wizz
How do you have an inaugural vintage and also a previous vintage?
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:40 pm
by Red Bigot
Grange?
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:42 pm
by Red Bigot
Wizz wrote:How do you have an inaugural vintage and also a previous vintage?
Previous to current, not previous to inaugural?
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:55 pm
by smithy
Too easy
Thorne Clark Quartage
Smithy
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:13 pm
by Red Bigot
smithy wrote:8) Too easy
Thorne Clark Quartage
Smithy
I wouldn't call the Quartage "mammoth" in any vintage.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:34 pm
by Quizmaster
All clues now posted
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:42 pm
by michaelw
1970 Penfolds Grange
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:44 pm
by lantana
Grange 2001?
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:27 pm
by Red Bigot
lantana wrote:Grange 2001?
I think Grange 2001 is 100% Shiraz, maybe St Henri 2002, but I don't think all the other clues fit.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:38 pm
by Alex F
I think michaelw is on the right track, so I am going to guess
1975 Grange.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:10 pm
by Davo
Statement 1, Are you a varietal or a blend???
(OK , I know you are a blend but I was just being pernickity
)
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:31 am
by Quizmaster
Bloody doctors
I stated varietal blend to distinguish from regional blend as:
The
1975 Penfolds Grange comprised
15% Magill Shiraz
50% Kalimna Shiraz
20% Clare Shiraz
10% Kalimna Cab Sauv
5% Koonunga Hill Shiraz Pressings
Well done all, esp Alex for nailing it.
Back Friday - I think.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:40 am
by Alex F
I still don't understand what the difference is between varietal and regional blend...
I give credit to Michael...
Re: Friday Quiz
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:46 am
by GraemeG
Quizmaster wrote:Who/What/etc am I?
Two individuals developed my line
Max Schubert and who? Don Ditter? 1975?
Hmmm,
Graeme
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:11 pm
by Quizmaster
Varietal blend i.e. Cabernet Sauvignon and Shiraz
Regional blend i.e. Barossa and Clare
Grange was established by Max Schubert and Jeff Penfold Hyland.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:33 pm
by GraemeG
Quizmaster wrote:Varietal blend i.e. Cabernet Sauvignon and Shiraz
Regional blend i.e. Barossa and Clare
Grange was established by Max Schubert and Jeff Penfold Hyland.
Oooh, that might be one for the third umpire. Does 'not enforcing the rest of the management's ban' after 4 vintages constitute 'established'? I recall Hooke writing that Schubert was always very grateful to JPH for his support, but still...
Good thing I'm not a lawyer!
cheers,
Graeme
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:42 pm
by Quizmaster
........and just how easy do you want these quiz's to be
........ and, third umpire
C'mon, get a grip son, it aint gunna happen
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:19 pm
by Alex F
Quizmaster wrote:Varietal blend i.e. Cabernet Sauvignon and Shiraz
Regional blend i.e. Barossa and Clare
Grange was established by Max Schubert and Jeff Penfold Hyland.
so what was wrong with the 1970 grange?
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:21 am
by GraemeG
Quizmaster wrote:........and just how easy do you want these quiz's to be
........ and, third umpire
C'mon, get a grip son, it aint gunna happen
Fair point! If it's good enough for Sep Blatter!
cheers,
Graeme
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:28 am
by Quizmaster
Alex, 1970 Grange had no Cabernet component.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:21 am
by michaelw
Quizmaster wrote:Alex, 1970 Grange had no Cabernet component.
Quizmaster,
I'd have to disagree and refer to Penfolds.
http://www.penfolds.com.au/library/tasting/grange1970.pdf
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:07 pm
by Quizmaster
Controversy
My impeccable source must just be peccable i.e. no Cab! It’s being looked into as we type.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:16 pm
by Gavin Trott
Quizmaster wrote:Controversy
My impeccable source must just be peccable i.e. no Cab! It’s being looked into as we type.
Damn
Don't you just hate peccable sources!
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:34 pm
by Alex F
Thanks for your reply Quizmaster... but as Michael points out
interestingly langtons rates both the 1969/70 and 74/75 vintages in the same way (shoot me if I am wrong... maybe I should check this first)
I only picked 1975 because Michael picked 1970
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:08 pm
by Quizmaster
Well, it seems my source was indeed wrong - thanks Len
Penfolds have confirmed the only vintages of Grange that are
straight Shiraz are 1951, 1952, 1963, 1999, and 2000.
Whilst listing individual vineyard components, up to the 1980 vintage, Len Evans only has the 1953, 1975 and 1976 as having any Cabernet Sauvignon in them.
So, I was .... w ...w .... wr......wrong
Good effort Michael.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:40 pm
by Chuck
11.50% alcohol. A blast from the past.
Chuck