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Voyager Cab Merlot 2001 ........Brett
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:35 pm
by chal
Got some Voyager Cab Merlot 2001 largely on the strength of all the scribes high 90's scores.
But I reckon it has plenty of Brett
, and is none-the-better for it.
Any thoughts out there
Chal
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:22 pm
by Wizz
Chal, I had one a month or so ago and I thought it was pretty clean:
01 Voyager Cabernet Merlot: beautiful pencil shaving, mint and cassis nose. Taut, gravelly casiis, varietal leafiness (tomato leaf for some), quite complete, good intensity. tannins are a bit clunky. Cellar 5 yrs+. Very good, espacially for the $30 street price 90/100
cheers
Andrew
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:56 pm
by Guest
I dont beleive it a high 90's wine but havent found Brett.
Devils Lair is a mid 90's with MW,Cullen,Gladstones and Howard Park the only high 90's 2001 wines from Magaret River that I have had.
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:05 am
by Davo
It is the cleanest I have ever had from Voyager and I hate Brett. Heaps of green pepper (capsicum) but no brett and I have had 3 bottles so far, the last over 2 nights last Sat and Sun.
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:46 am
by Guest
Chal - was the bottle you had from a screwcap-sealed or a cork-sealed bottle?
Brett likes oxygen. Quite possible that a cork-sealed bottle would should a lot more than a screwcap-sealed bottle.
J
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:42 pm
by monghead
Had this last night and really liked it.
Loved the cassis and shavings, and the juicy fruit. However, had a fair whack of tannins, which i'm not sure will soften and integrate before the fruit falls over.
Anyways, a great medium term wine, and great value.
Will certainly be getting half a dozen!
Cheers,
Monghead.
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:11 pm
by beef
I haven't tried this wine, but I believe myself to be particularly sensitive to Brett. Or at least a common "failing" amongst some wines that I believe to be Brett. It's slightly OT, but I'm hoping for confirmation that I'm not simply insane. I've recently found the following wines to be Brett-affected to varying degrees:
2002 Penfolds Bin 128
2002 Pikes Shiraz
1998 Pikes Shiraz
2001 Kay's Cabernet Sauvignon
2001 Kurtz Boundary Row Shiraz
Can anyone comment on their own experiences with these wines, and if they're thought to be Brett-affected.
Thanks heaps,
Stuart
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:28 pm
by Guest
I tried the 01 Voyager a couple of months back (cork sealed bottle), and certainly didn't notice any brett in it. The 98 and 99 have been a bit bretty, but the 01 seemed pretty clean to me.
Bill
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:35 pm
by Guest
2002 penfolds bin 128 - yes, bretty IMHO.
J2.
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:54 pm
by Red Bigot
beef wrote: I've recently found the following wines to be Brett-affected to varying degrees:
2002 Penfolds Bin 128
2002 Pikes Shiraz
1998 Pikes Shiraz
2001 Kay's Cabernet Sauvignon
2001 Kurtz Boundary Row Shiraz
Can anyone comment on their own experiences with these wines, and if they're thought to be Brett-affected.
Thanks heaps,
Stuart
Stuart, I didn't notice it on the Bin 128 (just spicy, juicy Coonawarra Shiraz aromas and flavours) or the Pikes 2002 Shiraz, but some bottles of the 1998 Pikes from my cellar are starting to show more brett than I can cope with.
Pity, it seemed so youthful and fresh until a year or so ago.