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Decanting shiraz

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:00 am
by gbrawley
Some advice on decanting would be appreciated. I have found that I enjoy my 2002 shiraz decanted at least an hour. The 2003s dont seem to need as much decanting. My 1998s dont seem to need it. So is there a rule of thumb on how old and what vintages need decanting. It would be helpful to me if someone could tell me how they stack up today. Thanks :?:

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:37 am
by Red Bigot
The decanting topic got done to death a while back:
http://forum.auswine.com.au/viewtopic.p ... =decanting
http://forum.auswine.com.au/viewtopic.p ... =decanting

I don't remember any particular conclusion (Mike/KMP will probably summarise :-) ), but here is what I do:

Older reds with sediment are decanted within an hour or so of drinking, it depends more on the likelihood of crust than age for those less than about 8 yo, some 98's and 96's I'll decant, some I won't bother, older than that I nearly always decant soon before drinking.

For younger reds it depends on the particular wine, not just the vintage. If I'm going to drink a bottle of a big, possibly closed/reticent young shiraz or cabernet to try to assess it for purchase/cellaring I'll usually give it a vigorous decant an hour or two before the meal/tasting and see how it develops from there, often leave some in a half-bottle to the next day.

I seldom decant any wine more than 2-3 hours before consuming, if a young red is still reticent or a little stinky after an hour or so I will pour it quickly into another decanter and/or give it a good shake to aerate a bit more.

If I'm taking wine to a restaurant, wherever possible I double-decant just before leaving, to check for faults/suitability of the wine as well as avoiding the sediment.

On my last visit to Rockford in May (with Ric and John D), Ian the Stonewall CD manager decanted a bottle of 91 BP Shiraz by up-ending it into a decanter and then pouring it back into the rinsed bottle through a fine metal mesh - an example of applying the theory that removing all the sediment removes some of the flavour/character of a wine too. The wine did show pretty well after this treatment, we took the remainder to dinner about 6-7 hours later as well and it was in fine form. See here for details in TORB's tour diary: http://www.torbwine.com/pf/SA%202005%20 ... er%204.htm

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:18 am
by KMP
Yes, I'd like to provide a very lengthy summary of the (non-anecdotal) data that exists on the positive aspects of decanting Shiraz.
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OK, With that finished, we can get on to drinking some wine. :twisted:

Mike

PS But don't go away because this topic has not died, its just resting!

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:04 pm
by Red Bigot
KMP wrote:Yes, I'd like to provide a very lengthy summary of the (non-anecdotal) data that exists on the positive aspects of decanting Shiraz.

PS But don't go away because this topic has not died, its just resting!


Nah, I just heard the flatline tone coming from the ICU. ;-)

I'll just have to dig into more of my 40 years worth of anecdotes. :-)