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Hi,

For those who live in Sydney and their order form has a red crayon mark across the top right corner, has anyone already received their Wendouree wines?

Cheers

Guest wrote:Hi,

For those who live in Sydney and their order form has a red crayon mark across the top right corner, has anyone already received their Wendouree wines?

Cheers

I am in your shoes as well. I had a red crayon mark, ordered the lot, but have not received anything and my credit card has not be touched.

It looks like I will be hanging around TORB in 20 years time in order to get a taste of the 2002 Shiraz!

Adair

I am in the same boat-starting to wonder if I had missed out.
We have only recieved a few allocations at Wine-Ark.
I just spoke to someone at cellar door,they are still in the early stages of the NSW processing.

Cheers

FWIW I have the famous black AB initials and received my treasures last week, however a mate of mine with the same initials has yet to receive them. He rang the winery and was told Sydney is being done in 2 waves - the older clients first - then others, including some with black initials. Where this leaves red crayon clients I am not sure. Already the Cab Sauv is gone...I am told only 200 cases produced this year.

cheers,

David M.

We got a call yesterday to advise that cabernet is all gone and would we be happy to receive cab malbec instead - the answer of course was: yes!

Oh and the red crayon mark we were told means that you are simply not a new customer who hasn't ordered before.

-- George Krashos

Yay, my credit card was charged $1,084.40 by Wendouree yesterday!

Adair

Adair wrote:Yay, my credit card was charged $1,084.40 by Wendouree yesterday!

You are a sick pup Adair. That was twice what I spent.

TORB wrote:

Adair wrote:Yay, my credit card was charged $1,084.40 by Wendouree yesterday!

You are a sick pup Adair. That was twice what I spent.

Of the 2002 vintage, I will take as many Wendouree reds as I can as they should be just opening up on my 50th birthday!

Adair

Adair wrote:Yay, my credit card was charged $1,084.40 by Wendouree yesterday!

Adair

Good lord! What a waste! All that '03 Bordeaux or 01 Moss Wood you could have bought!
GW

Adair wrote:Of the 2002 vintage, I will take as many Wendouree reds as I can as they should be just opening up on my 50th birthday!

Goodie, can I came, I will only be about 80.

As for GW's comments, ignore them, who wants one bottle of expensive, overpriced 03 Frog stuff when you can get a couple of dozen Wendourees instead. And I will bring the Moss Wood to your 50th.

Gary W wrote:

Adair wrote:Yay, my credit card was charged $1,084.40 by Wendouree yesterday!

Adair

Good lord! What a waste! All that '03 Bordeaux or 01 Moss Wood you could have bought!
GW

That'd be about, what, 680ml of 03 Latour?

cheers,
Graeme

$1048? Did you not order any Muscat Adair?

JamieBahrain wrote:$1048? Did you not order any Muscat Adair?

Yes, I presume I got everything except the Cab Sauv, but I will see.

Adair

Adair wrote:

JamieBahrain wrote:$1048? Did you not order any Muscat Adair?

Yes, I presume I got everything except the Cab Sauv, but I will see.

Adair

$1048 would buy 2 cases of terrific Premier Cru Burgundy from my cellar, Adair. Which would you rather for instant gratification? Any chance you could save one for my 80th birthday?

GraemeG wrote:

Gary W wrote:

Adair wrote:Yay, my credit card was charged $1,084.40 by Wendouree yesterday!

Adair

Good lord! What a waste! All that '03 Bordeaux or 01 Moss Wood you could have bought!
GW

That'd be about, what, 680ml of 03 Latour?

cheers,
Graeme

Well it is almost exactly the same price as the dozen 03 GPL I ordered anyway.....

GW

Maybe this post should be re-worded as:

How should Adair spend $1,084.40?

As some of you seem to be very concerned about my financial wel-being , I should give you a quick insight into why I buy certain wines. Simply, I am trying to catch vinous greatness. In buying these wines, I am hoping in 10-30 years that they will be able to be served on any table of wine distinction... just like the 1965 Lindemans Hunter River Burgundy!

I concede that whether Wendouree is the right choice is debatable, having had discussions about this point even with people who have replied to this post. So, with the limited funds I do have, what else should I buy? I was happy to take the gamble on the 2001 Cullen. I was not as confident about the the 2001 Moss Wood. I would like to get a few bottle of 1990 Krug when released... and with regard to the 2003 GPL, I think a few bottles of it would be good as well.

Kind regards,
Adair

Don't listen to them Adair!

I buy Wendouree every year, full allocation. Bulk up the long range and strategic muscle of my cellar.

Outstanding QPR as evidenced in recent weeks- best friend's first born got a Wendouree in a nice wooden box from her birth year and a Hong Kong burgundy importer offered me an exchange of a Grand Cru red and white for a Wendouree with some age ( 96 incidentally, tried to explain it would only just be getting over bottling shock ).

Few Australian wines have the long haul to satisfy circumstance one, or the curiosity of international wine lovers for two. Now consider the inexpensive price and QPR of Wendouree.

Hi,

Has anyone actually ever had a great Wendouree wine ???? Oldest I've had is 1977 Cabernet plus some others (80's Shiraz and blends) I remain unconvinced about potential for greatness due to the fact that they never really (to me anyway) gain any complexity ??(or character) Terrific vineyard/history/story etc though

Bonneau

Bonneau wrote:Hi,
Has anyone actually ever had a great Wendouree wine ???? Oldest I've had is 1977 Cabernet plus some others (80's Shiraz and blends) I remain unconvinced about potential for greatness due to the fact that they never really (to me anyway) gain any complexity ??(or character) Terrific vineyard/history/story etc though
Bonneau

Thank you for your post Bonneau.

Could people please post the greatest Wendouree wine you have tasted and when you tasted it?

I have only had very young Wendourees which displayed uniqueness and greatness in their own way but were not yet what people would call enjoyable, maybe intellectually so though.

Thanks,
Adair

Bonneau

It depends on your expectations I suppose.

The mid 70's Wendourees I have consumed, came from auction and questionable cellaring provenance. I felt the wines were relatively fresh, plenty of dark fruit/licorice and earth bounded by the structure you would come to expect. In terms of complexity, bit unfair to comment due bottle conditions, but I will add the wines seemed to fair better than some poorly cellared Grange that I have liberated.

Mid 80's experience pretty good. Again, cellaring provenance in question. I do recall a vintage,of the cab malbec I think, where the fruit was battered into reticence by tannin. It was brutal but an experience all the same.

I have no notes. Wendouree's consumed a few years ago, when the expectation of the wines was simply big, rustic and interesting wine.

Hooke and Haliday have had well documented experiences with Wendouree. Very positive.

Final judge for me, well cellared examples out of my own cellar from 2010 onwards.

I have had both the 1984 (twice) and 1987 Cab Malbec from a friends cellar in the mid to late 1990's at dinner parties. On all three occasions they were superb. We fought for refills and nurtured our glasses, enjoying very smooth richly flavored wine.

I only hope my Wendourees from 1991 onwards will be as good.

cheers,

David M.

I have had 1971 Shiraz which tasted like a 5 year old wine...the only mature one was the 1977 Cab Shiraz blend which was delightful.

Im not a wendouree guy...I reckon they a rustic interesting wines but just not for my palate unfortunately.

Hacker wrote:I have had both the 1984 (twice) and 1987 Cab Malbec from a friends cellar in the mid to late 1990's at dinner parties. On all three occasions they were superb. We fought for refills and nurtured our glasses, enjoying very smooth richly flavored wine.

I only hope my Wendourees from 1991 onwards will be as good.

cheers,

David M.

I prefer too pinch Wendourees from other peoples tables. Much more cost effective. Saves me over $1000 a year!
GW

JamieBahrain wrote:$1048? Did you not order any Muscat Adair?

Received my wine today. I received:
12 x Shiraz Mataro
6 x Shirax
6 x Cabernet Malbec
6 x 2001 Muscat

Missed out on the: Cabernet Sauvignon and the Shiraz Malbec

Adair

Hi,

Adair - The best Wendouree wine that I tasted was, rather obtusely, a very interesting bottle of 1987 Malbec that I procured in Sydney circa. 1993 and drank in 2000. Cellaring conditions and vintage combined produced a complex and ethereal wine that had probably just a little too much tannin (of the hard, unsupple variety) but the wine was enjoyable.

I'v had various younger examples over the years and have always been slightly under-impressed, the last was a bottle of 1999 shiraz with some veal meatballs in 2001. I agree that buying them as you have and cellaring them yourself from a vintage such as 2002 will provde definitive results.

BTW - the muscat is my favorite Wendouree wine.

Bonneau

Just received a letter and an invoice from Wendouree today! The letter dated 09 August and basically advised me that their C/S had already been sold out. I am getting all the wines I ordered except the C/S.

It is taking them a long time to complete all orders.

Cheers

HenryL wrote:Just received a letter and an invoice from Wendouree today! The letter dated 09 August and basically advised me that their C/S had already been sold out. I am getting all the wines I ordered except the C/S.

It is taking them a long time to complete all orders.

Cheers

I guess when you've been in business for over a hundred years you figure; another week, another month, what's the difference? The wine's not ready to drink for 20 years anyway...!

cheers,
Graeme

Adair wrote:

Guest wrote:Hi,

For those who live in Sydney and their order form has a red crayon mark across the top right corner, has anyone already received their Wendouree wines?

Cheers

I am in your shoes as well. I had a red crayon mark, ordered the lot, but have not received anything and my credit card has not be touched.

It looks like I will be hanging around TORB in 20 years time in order to get a taste of the 2002 Shiraz!

Adair

Hi There,

I live in Adelaide and have submitted my order to Wendouree about a month ago (I am new to the mailinglist) and am still waiting to receive the order. My instructions were that they may take up to 3 months to fill all orders, so dont give up.

John !

Don't give up John.

Sometimes, when new to the list, it takes a few attempts to get an allocation.

I imagine there would be more demand from long time mail list customers this release-considering the upbeat talk of general 02 vintage quality.