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Mailing lists - the $100 barrier

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:50 am
by GraemeG
I was prompted to think about this by a moderately uninteresting thread on eBob about the pricing of wine, California Cult wines in particular. And it set me to wondering how many wines sold via mailling list in Australia these days cost over $100/bottle. (I should add that I'm not on a heap of lists myself - and none that have anything over $100/bottle).

Offhand, I could think of Hill of Grace (but does it get offered to all mailing list customers?), Giaconda chardonnay, Bass Phillip (but which wines?), Dalwhinnie Eagle perhaps? Do Yarra Yering still sell a fantastically overpriced Merlot? There seem to be very few of the long-established makers who've broached this price-point (none of the big WA makers, not Mount Mary. Wantirna?). Of the newer wave, I presume Run Rig, Ringland?Wild Duck Creek?

Just how many wineries ask this money for wine from their mailling customers?

cheers,
Graeme

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:04 am
by Guest
Giaconda Chardonnay was $93/750mL for the 2002 vintage - not over $100.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 11:04 am
by Baby Chickpea
Off the top of my head:
-Henschke HoG and Hill of Roses
-Three Rivers Shiraz and Randall
-WDC Duck Muck
-Greenock Creek Roennfeldts
-Torbreck RunRig, Descendant, The Factor
-Kaestler Old bastard
-Dalwhinnie The Eagle
-Bass Phillip Reserve, Premium and Estate (?)
-Yarra Yering merlot (not sure if this is still +$100)
-Marquis Phillips Integrity (no longer offered to domestic market though)
-Two Hands Ares

Rec'd a mailer from a winery I never buy from last week (can't remmeber name) and they have a new wine from old vine Shiraz for +$100.

I'm sure I've missed a few but others will fill it out ...

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 5:15 pm
by Lincoln
Yarra Yering Viognier is $100
Wantirna Estate 'Hannah' Cabernet Franc/Merlot is about $115

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 5:22 pm
by AlanK
Danny,

What's the hill of roses?

Thx.

Alan

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 5:32 pm
by Baby Chickpea
Alan - the Hill of Roses is a youthful HoG. It is from vines in the HoG vineyard that have not reached the requisite old age to make it into the HoG wine. Stpehen Henschke apparently thought these vines produced amazing juice in 2001 so he decided to bottle it. The 1st vintage is the 2001 and only 400 bottles were made. It was offered to long-standing Henschke ML customers at one per customer. The cost was $100 per bottle ($50 upfront and $50 on delivery).

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 6:00 pm
by AlanK
Thanks Danny for the detailed information.

It doesn't seems like a wine I can get my hands on though.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 9:53 pm
by michaelw
One of proven pedigree that has not hit this price point is the Stonyridge Larose. I know it's not Australian, but it does come from the other side of the Tasman and it is highly sought after.

Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:29 pm
by Rob
There is only 300 bottles hill of roses produced or at least is available to the public anyway. You are limited to 3 bottles per customer. I was offered 3 bottles and got all 3. It came in a very nice box similar to the hill of grace. The bottle does not have labels, all the information is printed directly onto the bottle itself in gold. Nice looking bottle.

When I open one I will post the TN.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 8:32 am
by Baby Chickpea
That other wine over $100 is the Knight Granite Hills Baptista for $115.

Also, the Tahbilk 1860 Old Vines is now $110 pb

Thx Rob for clarifying the finer points of the Rose (memory obviously ain't as good as yours!).

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 12:11 am
by Daryl Douglas
Baby Chickpea wrote:Also, the Tahbilk 1860 Old Vines is now $110 pb
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But still just under $100 with Tahbilk's 10% club member discount. :wink:

daz

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:22 am
by Baby Chickpea
Ah, but doesn't the freight component take it over $100? :wink:

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 12:56 pm
by Guest
Nope, free freight for club members if you buy (mixed) cases.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:44 pm
by Guest
What is the Knights wine please?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 6:02 pm
by Guest
Guest wrote:What is the Knights wine please?


David Traeger Wines.
Graytown Shiraz from Heathcote.
Has nothing to do with Knights as far as I know.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 6:04 pm
by Guest
Anonymous wrote:
Guest wrote:What is the Knights wine please?


David Traeger Wines.
Graytown Shiraz from Heathcote.
Has nothing to do with Knights as far as I know.


Above with regards to the Baptista

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 2:20 pm
by Baby Chickpea
From the newsletter:

- 1st vintage 1997
- named after Italian immigrant, Baptista Governa, who planted a vneyard at Graytown in Heathcote in 1891.
- David Traeger restored the vineyard after 113 years of neglect
- Old vine shiraz yields are "miniscule"
- rave review from Halliday and Max Allen

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:08 pm
by Jess
Wolf Blass Black Label ($100)
Wolf Blass Platinum $150ish
Saltram The Eighth Maker Barossa Shiraz ($190ish)

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:30 pm
by Jess
Moondarra Samba Side Pinot

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 6:52 pm
by guest boy
I didn't know Wolf Blass had a mailing list? Please clarify as this is only for wines on mailers, not Aussie wines in general like RWT/Grange et al.

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 6:53 pm
by Jonno - Guest
I thought the Samba Pinot was $95????????????

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 7:07 pm
by Hawthorne rules
Watchout for the latest offering from a single barrel 'garagiste' winery in Heathcote. Strictly allocated to "On Premise"

"Gold Digger Cabernet" 2003 -$110
"The Prospector Shiraz" 2003 - $120

Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 12:51 pm
by Kieran
I presume the Hawthorne Rules guest is a fan of Nigel Hawthorne rather than the e-less football team.

(thinkthinkthink)

Veritas Hanisch Shiraz must be pushing $100.
Reschke Empyrean
Seppelt 100YO Para
All Saints Museum Muscat/Tokay
Armagh?
Panorama Reserve Pinot Noir
Pipers Brook the Lyre?
Magpie Estate The Malcolm
Irvine Grand Merlot?
Petaluma Tiers?
Bannockburn Serre?
Geoff Merrill Henley
Penfolds special bin releases?

Kieran