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South African red wines
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:10 am
by LawrenceM
Hi all,
I should start by saying that I am not very familiar with South African wines or winemaking processes in South Africa.
I have been trying quite a few South African reds recently (vintages from 2002 to 2009) and am finding that regardless of the variety (I have tried a number of cabernet sauvignon's, syrah's and merlot's) the wines have very prominent pepper/dust/earth aromas. I guess you could call this old world, but I am finding that the peppery aromas are especially prevelant.
Can anyone shed some light on this? I am sure it has something to do with the region (most of the wines I have tried come from Stellenbosh) and perhaps barrel treatment, but I am curious to see if anyone has the answer.
Re: South African red wines
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:57 am
by Mahmoud Ali
I have detected what I call a smoky, burnt rubber aspect in many South African reds which I attributed to pinotage, either on it's own or in a blend. An Obikwa cabernet I had a few years ago in Australia had a touch of that unmistakable smokiness and rubber and I figured it was due to some pinotage in the wine. However I have read that it might be a leaf roll virus that is causing this effect in the reds and attempts are being made to eradicate it.
I should say that not all South African reds are affected. I've had a syrah from South Africa, Graham Becks 'The Ridge', and it was pristine and pure, better that the Lehmann Eight Songs which was more than double the price.
Mahmoud.
Re: South African red wines
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:27 pm
by pdudley
We found that some of the "reserve" pinotages that spent a long time in oak had that flavour. I don't remember coming across it in any of their straight cabernets or shiraz/syrah. The easier drinking pinotages (Leopards Leap comes to mind) do not have that flavour.
Cheers
Paul
Re: South African red wines
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:47 am
by Mahmoud Ali
I should add that there are some fine Pinotage wines that did not have the smoky, burnt rubber notes and those are ones I've decided to cellar. They were:
'04 Fairview "Primo" Pinotage,
'06 Moreson Pinotage,
'01 Beyerskloof Pinotage.
I'd recommend trying any of these producers. From what I've read recently pinotage has a very small window of ripening during which it must be harvested.
Cheers..................Mahmoud.
Re: South African red wines
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:02 am
by Chuck
The only SA Pinotage I've tried (can't recall its name) had that earthy/dusty flavours but it did not worry me. I thought the wine was very impressive and would certainly buy the variety again.
Chuck
Re: South African red wines
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:29 pm
by Mahmoud Ali
Chuck, earthy/dusty I like, but the thing that people don't like is a burnt rubber, smokey tar-like notes that tends to overwhelm other aspects of the wine. The first time you experience it you will get an idea of what people complain about.
Mahmoud.