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Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:25 am
by Rawshack
I have to source a fair bit of pinot for xmas day (Duck is on the menu...) and my budget is going to stretch to around $20 a bottle

Any suggestions?

My other option is a Gamay (Pfieffer perhaps), which would do a similar job with matchin the duck.

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:50 am
by Michael R
Hi Rawshack

The best sub $20 Pinot I’ve had are both Tasmanian:
Josef Chromy Pepik & South Pinot (made by Pirie Estate). Both are light and v drinkable, and around $15 is you use google/check the major chains.

Sticks make a popular one too, but I couldn’t recommend it, particularly in warm weather as it’s a lot heavier with more tannin.

Cheers
Michael

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:58 am
by ufo
I would recommend below one. It is available at discountwines.com for $ 18.50.
2006 is drinking beautifully at the moment with all Pinot characteristics and 2009 supposed to be similar to 2006.

CUTTAWAY HILLS 2009 Pinot Noir SOUTHERN HIGHLANDS NSW

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:23 pm
by Bick
Personally, I've never had a decent pinot under $30, let alone $20. If you find one you rate at that price point, let me know!
As it 'appens, I'm having duck for xmas too. Wasn't sure on the wine match for me... but was thinking of going against the grain and having something other than pinot. I reckon a nice chianti could match well...

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:06 pm
by ufo
Bick wrote:Personally, I've never had a decent pinot under $30, let alone $20. If you find one you rate at that price point, let me know!
As it 'appens, I'm having duck for xmas too. Wasn't sure on the wine match for me... but was thinking of going against the grain and having something other than pinot. I reckon a nice chianti could match well...



You are too pesssimistic Mike. Give Cuttaway a go, you will be suprised. By the way I've got no relation with them, just a satisfied customer. Also I would like to include Coldstream Hills Pinot to the list if you increase the price to $ 30. I think it is the best Pinot in AU below $ 30. I stocked 2002 and 2003 on a very good deal for $ 16.99 (retails for $ 28 - 30), they are just a delight to drink now.

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:39 pm
by PaulG
Perhaps something from Whisson Lake?

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:47 pm
by via collins
In Oz, Hoddles Creek, Yarra Valley (so no 09, 08 is a beauty) and Stonier, Mornington Peninsula (09 out and about now) are incredibly good wines at the price.
In NZ, the Palliser Estate 2nd tier is insanely cheap, and lovely drop.

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:24 pm
by calm
I think the De Bortoli Windy Peak is a fairly good easy drinking Pinot and can be bought for $10-$12.
The De Bortoli Gulf Station is about $16 and has some fans as well. Halliday had it at about 94-95 pts.

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:26 pm
by dave vino
Another vote for the DB Gulf Station. Great bbq/pizza drop.

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:27 pm
by Rawshack
Bick wrote:Personally, I've never had a decent pinot under $30, let alone $20. If you find one you rate at that price point, let me know!
As it 'appens, I'm having duck for xmas too. Wasn't sure on the wine match for me... but was thinking of going against the grain and having something other than pinot. I reckon a nice chianti could match well...


Hmm, going to have to start calling you Miles

I had a lovely pinot from the yarra for 18.50 the other night - a little rustic, but burgundian with nice balance and simple varietal character. Name escapes me, will have to remember. EDIT - Wonga Estate. Not super clean, and a little bit short, but a wine with character.

Also a big fan of the Paringa Estate Entry level pinot - around $25, which is delicious

However, I would agree that Pinot is generally a rich persons game... and I am a pauper :cry:

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:28 pm
by milky
The 1st 2 sub-$20 pinot that came to mind are those suggested by calm - De Bortoli Windy Peak & Gulf Station - quaffable & very good pricing. The Gulf Station is worth a try, while the Windy Peak is more cherry/strawberry juice + alcohol... :P

Another choice could be Mike Press 09 Pinot Noir... I personally like his VFM offerings - missing it now, being overseas... :(

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:38 pm
by Dave Dewhurst
I recently found a bunch of older Picardy pinots (their entry level) from 1996 to 1999 at auction. I am not a big fan of Picardy pinot young but thought I would have a punt as these were cheap as (sub $15) and I hadn't tried an older one. The 1996 I had recently was stunning, better in fact than a 1999 Faiveley Premier Cru the night before (which was pretty darn good in itself!). Obviously not an ideal suggestion for the coming festivities but maybe worth a look for the future??

Cheers

Dave

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:18 pm
by monghead
1. Hoddles Creek
2. Hoddles Creek
3. Hoddles Creek

Nothing else comes even an order of magnitude close.

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:04 am
by griff
monghead wrote:1. Hoddles Creek
2. Hoddles Creek
3. Hoddles Creek

Nothing else comes even an order of magnitude close.


What he said :D

cheers

Carl

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:18 am
by Waiters Friend
G'day

In addition to overwhelming support for both Josef Chromy Pepik and Hoddles Creek, I would add Bellarmine (Pemberton) to the mix. $18 from the winery, and frequently cheaper on special.

Cheers

Allan

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:47 am
by Wayno
Curly Flat's second label "Williams Crossing", is about $21? I think... and it's my house pinot of choice. Seems to be spot-on in practically all vintages.
Another vote for Hoddles, although I'm increasingly of the opinion that their Chardonnay is their real gem.
R Wines Permutations Pinot (not sure if it's made/available anymore) is also around $20 and is a very good wine for the price.

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:23 am
by Rawshack
Wayno wrote:Curly Flat's second label "Williams Crossing", is about $21? I think... and it's my house pinot of choice. Seems to be spot-on in practically all vintages.
Another vote for Hoddles, although I'm increasingly of the opinion that their Chardonnay is their real gem.
R Wines Permutations Pinot (not sure if it's made/available anymore) is also around $20 and is a very good wine for the price.


The WC Pinot - and Chardonnay - is very good, but prices for both seem to have risen recently... I'll have a look

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:46 am
by Sean
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Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:21 pm
by griff
Wayno wrote:Curly Flat's second label "Williams Crossing", is about $21? I think... and it's my house pinot of choice. Seems to be spot-on in practically all vintages.
Another vote for Hoddles, although I'm increasingly of the opinion that their Chardonnay is their real gem.
R Wines Permutations Pinot (not sure if it's made/available anymore) is also around $20 and is a very good wine for the price.


I agree that the Chardonnay is even better as well :) The 2003 is one of my all-time fave Aussie Chardonnays

cheers

Carl

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:18 am
by Rawshack
thanks again everyone for replying to this thread

I ended up stumping for the JC Pepik - it is a lighter style of pinot, but it's food friendly, well balanced with good varietal fruit characters and will be great if the mercury hits 30c as planned in Central Victoria

Cheers and happy drinking over christmas

Rawshack AKA Alistair

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:29 am
by daz
Rawshack wrote:thanks again everyone for replying to this thread

I ended up stumping for the JC Pepik - it is a lighter style of pinot, but it's food friendly, well balanced with good varietal fruit characters and will be great if the mercury hits 30c as planned in Central Victoria

Cheers and happy drinking over christmas

Rawshack AKA Alistair


Well, whoever or whatever is planning the weather really needs a fuckload of training in customer service!!

Up here, a monsoonal trough dumping shitloads of rain, 30C and 98% humidity is more conducive to the consumption of chilled off-dry riesling than pinot. It looks like I'll get sodden riding the old Zizzer to Charters Towers tomorrow. But hey, ya get wet havin" a shower, ya dry off afterward.

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:58 am
by Thommo
I got caught out in the deluge on the trumpy earlier in the week, heading out to pick up what I think was the last 2006 Steven's Semillon in Brisbane. Worth it though :D

Re: Best sub $20 pinot..?

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:47 pm
by daz
Got a bit wet on the way there, it was sprinkling when I left yesterday morning, for a few hundred metres but was dry the rest of the way and has been since. Praise be!