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An Interesting Question..

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:26 pm
by m_ede
Hi All,

I was asked by a friend last night, what is the oldest bottle in my cellar and the oldest wine i've tasted??

Thought it might be an interesting post on here.

My two answers:

1: 1985 Chateau Motoun Rosthchild

2: 1955 Penfolds Grange. This was a fantastic wine I was able to taste through some friends, it had been kept in Pristine condition.




Cheers

Mat

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:34 pm
by TiggerK
Yep, always good to feel jealous of others.... Grange 1955, noice.

Me.

1. St Henri 1970 (birth year wine, prob drink at Xmas). (sadly then leaps up to 1991, yes I'm a noob)

2. Leutesdorfer Auslese 1938. Touch past it, but what history!

Cheers
TiggerK

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:56 pm
by Thommo
Cellar: 1997 Seppelts VP & trial blend VP
Tasted: 1907 Seppeltsfield 100 Year Old Tawny - Incredible! I dont really get paying $550 for a new release grange, but a cool grand for some of this I understand (not that I have ever actually bought any...)

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:02 pm
by Bick
Answer 2 needs to be given in context of when it was drunk, presumably. I've had many 1970's and 80's wines, but most of them were probably consumed in the 1980's :wink:

I've only had a handful of wines over 20 years age at the time I had them. Perhaps the best that springs immediately to mind is the 89 Larose tasted last year, though I'm sure I've had older unmemorable wines.

One day I'll get to taste something really ancient... here's hoping.

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:32 pm
by Waiters Friend
Both of mine are ports:

Cellar: early 1980s VPs
Consumed: 1930 Para (a couple of times, and last tasted at over 70 years of age)

The vast majority of my cellar is 90s and 00s

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:09 pm
by Alex F
Cellar: Seppelts Single Vintage Tawny Port 1983
Tasted: Seppelts 1904 Tawny

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:04 am
by Partagas
1991 Cape Mentelle Cab Sav Magnum (just drank my 1991 Mosswood Special Reserve a few weeks back, still young)
1974 Rufina Chianti Reserva (very light colour but still had not past its mark. Drank two years ago)

Sam

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:41 am
by sparky
Nothing older in the cellar than early '90's unfortunately..

BUT

Tasted both '51 & '52 Grange in the company of John Bird and Don Ditter, which was an incredibly privileged moment I'll be remembering for a while.

The Saltram 1959 Vintage Rare Tawny will also linger on my taste buds longer than most.

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:41 am
by reschsmooth
To bear my newbie chest to the world:

1. Either 1998 Perrier-Jouet Belle Epoque or 1996 Eiswine
2. 1967 Grange - bought for parent's anniversary a few years back and drank a few -1 years back.

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:52 am
by Michael McNally
In my cellar: 1971 Saltram Mamre Brook Vintage Port (for my wife's 40th next year)
In my memory: 1944 Para for my dad's 65th
Oldest table wine: 1971 Saltram Mamre Brook Cabernet/Shiraz a couple of years ago which was sublime

Cheers

Michael

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:41 pm
by Rawshack
a 1981 Bandol. A sensational wine as I recall, but not particularly old in the scheme of things.

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:52 pm
by Broughy
1895 cognac (does that count?)
1973 yalumba VP

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:48 pm
by via collins
"a 1981 Bandol. A sensational wine as I recall, but not particularly old in the scheme of things".

I bought a 1995 Pibarnon Bandol last week in France, and referred to it as an "old" wine. At that moment, the distance between my concept of an old wine and that of a Frenchman's was way too apparent!

My cellar like most is 90s/00s, and oldest tasted would be some early 70s Tahbilks and Craiglees enjoyed at CD this year.

I think my first experience of seriously aged wine is still a ways off...

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:13 pm
by Wayno
Oldest wine in cellar: some old Aussie vps - mid 70s
Oldest wine tasted: Tahbilk Marsanne 1972 - i think! Still in reasonable shape- tried at an offline last year

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:24 pm
by n4sir
Oldest wine tried: 1905 Seppetlsfield 100 YO Tawny
Oldest wine in the cellar: 1951 Seppeltsfield 50 YO Tawny

Seeing as having two fortifieds seems a bit of a cop-out...

Oldest table wine tried: 1962 Penfolds St Henri
Oldest table wine in the cellar: 1964 Lindemans Special Bin 2940 Langhorne Creek Oeillade-Shiraz.

Cheers,
Ian

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:08 am
by Craig(NZ)
for me

oldest wine tasted that i can remember was a 1970 Wynns Cabernet Sauvignon...nothing special
oldest in cellar isnt that old i think is 1992 Grange... again nothing special

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:36 am
by Luke W
Oldest fortified tasted - a wine bought along to a wine tasting by Mick Morris in the early 80's and he estimated it was about 100 years old at that stage so circa 1880's - it was a stunning sticky
Oldest table wine - probably the 55 Grange - still the benchmark for me in terms of great reds - drank the first one in 1983
Oldest in cellar - 1976 Yalumba Without Fear Vintage Port
Oldest table wine in cellar - probably a 1991 Wynns BL - tend to drink most of my old wines before they go off

cheers

Luke

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:51 am
by Brucer
1956 Henschke Mt Edelstone at a Hill of Grace vertical with Stephen Henschke at the Wine Gallery in Sydney a few years ago.
In the cellar 1956 Penfolds Club port

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:23 pm
by Muscat Mike
sparky wrote:Nothing older in the cellar than early '90's unfortunately..

BUT

Tasted both '51 & '52 Grange in the company of John Bird and Don Ditter, which was an incredibly privileged moment I'll be remembering for a while.

The Saltram 1959 Vintage Rare Tawny will also linger on my taste buds longer than most.


Sparky,
you probably have won the award for partaking of the most expensive wine ever on this board. In September 2009 the '51 Grange sold for about $138,000 at auction. Well done.
Mike.

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:14 pm
by dave vino
Oldest I've tasted is a 1938 same as Tim, pipping a 1939 Seppelt Para Liquer
Oldest in my cellar is a 1933 Seppelt Port, followed by a couple for 1944 Ports.

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:49 pm
by underwraps50
1969 Grange in 2002 - Vinegar. what a shame.
1970 Grange in 2002 - nice but past its best.
1971 Grange in 2002 - lovely, complex, astounding.
All at the Penfolds Wine Clinic in 2002.
Yalumba Thoroughbred Series Vintage Port. Series 1. (70s) Consumed circa 1990. All terriffic.

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:26 pm
by George Krashos
Oldest wine tasted: 1918 Pomerol (negociant bottling so no discernible "brand" or label as I recall). Not much left of it in wine terms either.

Oldest wines in cellar: Chateau Leoville Las Case 1970 and Chateau Suduiraut 1970 (birth year wines that were back-ups for my recent 40th dinner - they'll likely be consumed for the 41st)

-- George Krashos

Re: An Interesting Question..

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:02 pm
by Teisto
Oldest wine tasted is a 1939 Seppelt Para Port -

Oldest wine in the Cellar is 1980 Yalumba Kingston Town Port followed by some 1985 Markwood Estate White port.
Oldest non fortified is some 1990 Penfolds

Looking for some 1972 vintage wine for my 40th - if anyone could point me where I should be looking please let me know.