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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:45 pm
by monghead
Bick wrote:Hey Mining Man - I think you're right about this forum probably being intimidating; wine seems such an inpenetrable art when you start out and no-one likes to make an arse of themselves (a few forum members notwithstanding
). However, I never thought "now I know enough to post" or "now I've earned the respect to post" (I'm sure I haven't) - I just figured after a while, "what the hell, I like wine and I'm going to post". I wish more lurkers out there would do the same. We can't all have 20 years experience from the word go afterall. Also, sometimes the views of those who are "less expert" can be of more relevance to other members who are starting out - the opinions and palates may be more likely to coincide. So - if you're lurking out there, and you don't know too much, I for one would like to hear your thoughts as well as those of the experts.
Oh and for what its worth, I did a bit of internet searching as well and can confirm Lordson is indeed an aussie med student, a real person and a genuine (if unconventional) poster.
I think I was a lurker for 3-4 years prior to being an occassional poster.
It is very intimidating.
Look at me, I am still posting under the veil of anonimity!
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:51 pm
by monghead
Bick wrote:lordson wrote:and how the heck did you figure out i was a med student from the net? i just tried it them, and couldn't really find it. unless you knew which forums exactly that i frequent
I just know things... I could even tell you the average air-speed velocity of an unlaiden swallow...
Seriously - You post on a lot of forums... some have member details entered. I don't make a habit of snooping around though, don't worry.
Bick, this is where I miss your old avatar. It would have added visual impact.....
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:26 am
by Roscoe
Mahmoud Ali wrote:The part I can't figure out is why is it so important if Lordson is "real" or not. .
It's only important if honesty is considered a desirable quality. Otherwise, it's of no importance.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:34 am
by Bick
Davo wrote:Just because you enter something on an internet chat site registration does that make it real?
There is a consistency across a number of sites for lordson, not just of details but of post content and style going back several years that leads me to conclude the guy is genuine.
On the swallow subject - I know only the european stats, and could not comment on the african. Mention of coconuts by Mining Man is a red herring - its unlaiden remember...
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:20 am
by Mining Man
Bick wrote:~
On the swallow subject - I know only the european stats, and could not comment on the african. Mention of coconuts by Mining Man is a red herring - its unlaiden remember...
Of course it is, silly me.
Although I'm pretty sure the herring is being used to fell the largest tree in the forest. A coconut palm, perhaps?
Great read
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:37 am
by dazza1968
well,well,well 
That has been an entertaining read i must say!!!!!To Lordson thanks for adding a few spices to the forum.....
Regards Dazza
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:17 pm
by Wayno
Craig(NZ) wrote:... the grammer, comprehension and communication skills offered so far...
I trust that's deliberate?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:09 pm
by Craig(NZ)
... the grammer, comprehension and communication skills offered so far...
haha probably not. my typing and spelling sux (especially outside of microsoft word's correcting hand), just read my website for proof!!
whjere is lordson anyway???
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:21 pm
by griff
Craig(NZ) wrote:... the grammer, comprehension and communication skills offered so far...
haha probably not. my typing and spelling sux (especially outside of microsoft word's correcting hand), just read my website for proof!!
whjere is lordson anyway???
Doing what everyone should be doing and posting tasting notes
cheers
Carl
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:32 pm
by rooman
Red Bigot wrote:lordson wrote:i got here by searching "wine forum" in google, and this site was the ONLY one
No it's not, but it's interesting that StarForum doesn't show up in the first few pages of the search results. I think you should visit there as well.
nasty. No wonder you added the twisted emoticon
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:37 pm
by Red Bigot
rooman wrote:Red Bigot wrote:lordson wrote:i got here by searching "wine forum" in google, and this site was the ONLY one
No it's not, but it's interesting that StarForum doesn't show up in the first few pages of the search results. I think you should visit there as well.
nasty. No wonder you added the twisted emoticon
Purely a semi-scientific experiment to see how he would be received there.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:06 pm
by griff
Red Bigot wrote:rooman wrote:Red Bigot wrote:lordson wrote:i got here by searching "wine forum" in google, and this site was the ONLY one
No it's not, but it's interesting that StarForum doesn't show up in the first few pages of the search results. I think you should visit there as well.
nasty. No wonder you added the twisted emoticon
Purely a semi-scientific experiment to see how he would be received there.
To find out which of the fora is more accepting? Hmmm....
cheers
Carl
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:08 pm
by n4sir
griff wrote:Red Bigot wrote:rooman wrote:Red Bigot wrote:lordson wrote:i got here by searching "wine forum" in google, and this site was the ONLY one
No it's not, but it's interesting that StarForum doesn't show up in the first few pages of the search results. I think you should visit there as well.
nasty. No wonder you added the twisted emoticon
Purely a semi-scientific experiment to see how he would be received there.
To find out which of the fora is more accepting? Hmmm....
cheers
Carl
Or just to see how long he lasts.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:10 pm
by rooman
Red Bigot wrote:rooman wrote:Red Bigot wrote:lordson wrote:i got here by searching "wine forum" in google, and this site was the ONLY one
No it's not, but it's interesting that StarForum doesn't show up in the first few pages of the search results. I think you should visit there as well.
nasty. No wonder you added the twisted emoticon
Purely a semi-scientific experiment to see how he would be received there.
Before or after he was asked to compare and contrast the '45 Mouton with the '47 Cheval Blanc.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:40 pm
by Scanlon
Craig(NZ) wrote:personally i question whether someone with such grammer and spelling can get into uni these days let alone graduate. However I do realise he is in Australia so we will let that one slide
I Lecture at uni, and i often get emails in text speak and/or broken english.
I think it's just laziness.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:39 pm
by Wayno
rooman wrote:Red Bigot wrote:rooman wrote:Red Bigot wrote:lordson wrote:i got here by searching "wine forum" in google, and this site was the ONLY one
No it's not, but it's interesting that StarForum doesn't show up in the first few pages of the search results. I think you should visit there as well.
nasty. No wonder you added the twisted emoticon
Purely a semi-scientific experiment to see how he would be received there.
Before or after he was asked to compare and contrast the '45 Mouton with the '47 Cheval Blanc.
Or dwell on $40+ quaffer BBQ reds.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:50 pm
by Daryl Douglas
Wayno wrote:
Or dwell on $40+ quaffer BBQ reds.
Yeah, he told me to "get f****d" when I suggested (after mentioning a number of possibles) that the post almost seemed like a send-up as he'd be bound to be aware of many ~$40 big reds meeting the criteria. Someone PM'd me to say the bloke could be a perfect prat - but nobody's perfect
That forum does seem to be a bit hefty with francophiles. I rarely bother to read those posts - most of the wines the contributors rate more highly seem to be Australian anyway.
Cheers
daz
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:25 am
by dazza1968
Now getting back to the original Question, The first bottle of red i had that turned me into a wino was the
94 Orlando Lawson's Shiraz From Pathaway I am now an Addict(In a Good way) Regards Dazza
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:32 am
by Craig(NZ)
I Lecture at uni, and i often get emails in text speak and/or broken english.
I think it's just laziness.
yeah i often type something up, read it again and its riddled with errors of all types....i seem to be a good proof reader but not so good at getting it right first time
however i have started asking my 9yo daughters how to spell things and that is a worry
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:43 am
by rooman
Wayno wrote:
Or dwell on $40+ quaffer BBQ reds.
To be honest, that is not far off my price point for BBQ reds, I just don't ask post questions like that. As the years go on, I am more and more of the view that each day that goes by where I don't drink something special is like smashing a bottle up against the wall. Remember the old Grange ad? My biz partner recently gave me the book, "1001 WInes to try before you die" and I am having a serious crack at it.
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:45 am
by Wayno
Agree, for the most part.
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:54 am
by rooman
Wayno wrote:Agree, for the most part.
By the way if you haven't bought the book, you must. It is a great read. Mandatory reading for anyone who really wants to explore the fantastic world of wine. What is so good about the book is that it has something from all the regions of the world. Recently I have been trying to expand my knowledge of places such as Sicily (the Cos wine is superb) and Portugal/Spain.
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:47 pm
by Wayno
I also agree, the book looks excellent, having had a decent browse at it the other day. I've put it on a Christmas present request list - it certainly coincides with a growth in interest in imports for me and no doubt would be quite interesting/inspiring.
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:33 am
by Daryl Douglas
I refer to my post no. 912 above and wish to add:
I was not at all referring to Lordson in the above post. Also, I really have no issue with those who have developed an abiding interest in French wines. Each to own preference is as it should be. Mind you, if I buy a good $40 wine such as Zema Estate Family Selection Cabernet Sauvignon 2004 or The Story Westgate Grampians Shiraz 2006, I'd hardly consider it to be a bbq quaffer. Such, it seems, are the financial resources of others -all best wishes to those who are able to indulge their vinous whims and desires.
There are many more Aus wines I've not tried that I'd very much like to.
Cheers
daz
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:54 am
by griff
Daryl Douglas wrote:I refer to my post no. 912 above and wish to add:
I was not at all referring to Lordson in the above post. Also, I really have no issue with those who have developed an abiding interest in French wines. Each to own preference is as it should be. Mind you, if I buy a good $40 wine such as Zema Estate Family Selection Cabernet Sauvignon 2004 or The Story Westgate Grampians Shiraz 2006, I'd hardly consider it to be a bbq quaffer. Such, it seems, are the financial resources of others -all best wishes to those who are able to indulge their vinous whims and desires.
There are many more Aus wines I've not tried that I'd very much like to.
Cheers
daz
That is very diplomatic of you so early in the morning. The witching hour is usually when you catch me at my silliest!
For example, there is always the thought that a BBQ wine ideally would be young Bordeaux instead of Aussie red as they have a far more suitable tannin structure for all that protein
cheers
Carl
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:26 am
by Daryl Douglas
Dunno Carl - does that mean Bordeaux' typically have more prominent tannins than Saltram Mamre Brook Cabernet Sauvignon 2004?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:28 am
by Bick
Daryl Douglas wrote:Dunno Carl - does that mean Bordeaux' typically have more prominent tannins than Saltram Mamre Brook Cabernet Sauvignon 2004?
I'd say so. From my memory the saltram has a heap of tannin but its quite fine and balanced by heaps of fruit making it very approachable already - not sure you could say the same about a lot of young bdx?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:41 am
by griff
Bick wrote:Daryl Douglas wrote:Dunno Carl - does that mean Bordeaux' typically have more prominent tannins than Saltram Mamre Brook Cabernet Sauvignon 2004?
I'd say so. From my memory the saltram has a heap of tannin but its quite fine and balanced by heaps of fruit making it very approachable already - not sure you could say the same about a lot of young bdx?
What he said
cheers
Carl
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:37 pm
by Anonymous
I spent 28 years living in Europe no more than a weekend outing away from French wine nirvana, yet I know virtually nothing of French wine. I only got remotely interested when I moved to Australia two years ago, and the first bottle (taste, really) that got me hooked was a 2000 Jack Mann at the Houghton Swan Valley cellar door. It's got pricey since, like.