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Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:52 pm
by crusty2
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Better a few years ago I guess. Though still dark and brooding, caramel development notes. Nose is dark and lush though relatively simple- this carries onto the palate. Finishes with considerable heat that I didn't find very enjoyable.

88pts
Hi Jamie, what was the vintage?
Thanks

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:45 am
by Chuck
cuttlefish wrote:+1 on 2002, but unsure about my footwear then.
They were the height of fashion in the day and still are although SWMBO may disagree.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:56 am
by JamieBahrain
2004.

I’m learning how to present Aussie wine from screw cap. This was better by last glass and suggests decanting would be suited.

A John Riddoch 2006 in SC last night was decanted for 2 hours and was a deep expression of Coonawarra I’m happy with; even if lacking nuance and complexity.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:07 pm
by phillisc
2002 Petaluma, screw cap.
Brilliant wine, still has that glassy appearance with the faintest yellow tinge. Lovely notes, fresh flowers, clean palate, twinge of acid, perhaps just entering the drinking window, another 10 easily. Will have to try a cork edition soon.

2006 JR, will look at one of these in 2026 I think.

Cheers craig

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:06 pm
by JamieBahrain
And hopefully some evolved bottle development by 2026!

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:10 pm
by cuttlefish
JamieBahrain wrote:2004.

I’m learning how to present Aussie wine from screw cap. This was better by last glass and suggests decanting would be suited.

A John Riddoch 2006 in SC last night was decanted for 2 hours and was a deep expression of Coonawarra I’m happy with; even if lacking nuance and complexity.
I opened the 2006 Black Label (under screwcap) last night, and it's flying. Really lifted aromatics, and still some assertion in the tannins. Great drinking.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:53 pm
by Michael McNally
JamieBahrain wrote:Better a few years ago I guess. Though still dark and brooding, caramel development notes. Nose is dark and lush though relatively simple- this carries onto the palate. Finishes with considerable heat that I didn't find very enjoyable.

88pts
What was the vintage Jaime (not visible on the label).

Cheers

Michael

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:52 am
by Rossco
A dinner with some wonderful people. All wines served blind and theme was 'Open'
ie bring anything

Wine # 1 - 2012 Paul Bara Special Club Brut Rose
Pale Copper/Salmon Pink in the glass, such a lovely nose here. Strawberries and Rose petals.
Has a wonderful line of citrus acid on the palate, makes me think there is some Chardonnay in there even if the colour screams all pinot.... yep 70/30 Pinot/Chard.
All Grand Cru vineyards. Has a lick of brine / salinity in there gives it some real texture, lenght is beautiful. Nuttieness, creamy and an almond meal character in there finishing off with more strawberries. Perfect Start and a 2012 Vintage none the less!

Wine # 2- 2008 Emrich-Schonleber Halenberg Riesling GG
The only question that was going around me head, was this German or Alsace. Couldn't quite decide. Nose screamed German, but palate had me in Alsace
I think due to some acidity that didnt seem German. Flipped the coin and went Alsace - wrong!
Lovely sweetness on the nose. Wet pebbles, slate and minerals. Dry.... quite dry actually, which was really surprising given the sweetness on the nose, how good this is!
12.50% alc seemed wrong, as it was delicate, light and not intrusive at all. White peach, lemon/lemonade, and some florals in there. Just a wonderful example of perfectly
ripe fruit handled exceptionally well. Nice long lenght, soft texture.

Wine # 3 - 2010 Alain Burguet Les Rouges Du Dessus Vosne Romanee Premier Cru
Maybe im playing the man here, but feels VERY Italian. Salty Sea Air, salinity, Earthy, spicy, Tannin, chalky tannin actually. So interesting and so much going on. Feels very young though, 2012 - 2014 ish. Acidity and oak still settling down. Some slight violets, wonderful bright red in the glass. Some slight cherry and violets towards the end. On the lighter side of medium weight, and spicy... not pepper spice, more clove/cinnamon type spice. Love those chalky tannins, just needs time.

Wine # 4 - 2007 Louis Jadot Echezeaux Grand Cru
Some initial vegetal notes blew off with air. Feels older like a mid 90's wine. Menthol and lots of earth. Gravelly tannin here... and had trouble picking the region. Lovely handle of oak, supports those very high quality fruits.... more darker fruit spectrum. Black cherries, blackberries, blueberries ect. Then menthol/mintyness on the end as well.

Wine # 5 - 2006 Woodlands 'Robert' Cabernet Sauvignon
Immediately picked this as new world. Those stunning fruits leapt out of the glass. Very fruit driven and fruit forward wine. Blackberries, black currents, some slight capsicum notes
as well. Earthy wine, very earthy in fact. Not syrupy or over ripe, well integrated and oak a supporting role (not over done). Didnt pick this as Woodlands as everything I have read on this
wine says its syrupy, ripe and over oaked style, which I didnt find in this wine at all. Spectacular!

Wine # 6- 2006 Chateau Leoville Barton (St Julien)
Gee this was was pure Bordeaux. Lovely expression of gravel & graphite. The structure here just wonderful. Tannin dancing around the mouth, oak perfectly judged and the length was fantastic. Liquorice/Aniseed type
notes on the front palate. Some pencil shavings and slight tobacco says to me majority Cab. Not sure of % but would think 70%+?
Opened up in the glass and last sip had some violets and slight dark chocolate dust.

Wine # 7 - 2004 Chateau Leoville Barton (St Julien)
Another Barton! This was completely different to the 2006. Vintage variation showed
here (I thought). This was slightly more on the redberry spectrum than the black. Slight redcurrant, some cranberry (not the sourness though) and plums. Still had that minerality and mint/menthol with some capsicum, but didnt get as much of the graphite and gravel as the 06... maybe palate fatigue... years left though.

I didnt take notes on these unfortunatley

Bullers Premium Liqueur Muscat (believed to be 1996)

Baileys Bundarra HJT Liqueur Tokay

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:24 pm
by felixp21
had a look at 16 2009 Bordeaux today over lunch. For me, my first 10 year retrospective, as I seemed to have missed the rest being in Aus when they were held. (still, went to an amazing 20 year Burgundy retrospective whilst down there, so can't complain :) )

I didn't take detailed notes, but my overall impression was that 2009 is certainly living up to the hype, although I have read mixed reviews of the vintage in other forum posts. Hard to believe those, I think there was pretty much unanimous agreement the vintage is looking fantastic.
We also thought Pomerol was right up there as the best-performed commune, perhaps sharing those honours with, as expected, Pauillac.

Highlights from the group;

Lafite 100pts
Latour 99pts
La Fleur-Petrus 99pts
Lafleur 98pts
Montrose 98pts

No real low-lights, although I feel Pontet-Canet (92pts) was very over-rated by RPJ. I've seen it plenty of times since release, and it has never hit the heights anywhere near 100pts. An excellent wine, but no-where near perfect.
Very special showing by Lafite, simply incredible wine. I wasn't surprised by the performance of La Fleur-Petrus, this has been an absolute gem since it was about 4-5 years of age, and just continues to get better and better.

Although the tasting was high-end and pretty narrow, it certainly highlighted to me how much 2009 is behaving like 1982 at the same age. These wines are an absolute treat to drink now, will never close down, and will continue to improve for at least another decade.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:12 am
by Mahmoud Ali
Rossco wrote:A dinner with some wonderful people. All wines served blind and theme was 'Open'
ie bring anything

Wine # 1 - 2012 Paul Bara Special Club Brut Rose
Pale Copper/Salmon Pink in the glass, such a lovely nose here. Strawberries and Rose petals.
Has a wonderful line of citrus acid on the palate, makes me think there is some Chardonnay in there even if the colour screams all pinot.... yep 70/30 Pinot/Chard.
All Grand Cru vineyards. Has a lick of brine / salinity in there gives it some real texture, lenght is beautiful. Nuttieness, creamy and an almond meal character in there finishing off with more strawberries. Perfect Start and a 2012 Vintage none the less!

Wine # 2- 2008 Emrich-Schonleber Halenberg Riesling GG
The only question that was going around me head, was this German or Alsace. Couldn't quite decide. Nose screamed German, but palate had me in Alsace
I think due to some acidity that didnt seem German. Flipped the coin and went Alsace - wrong!
Lovely sweetness on the nose. Wet pebbles, slate and minerals. Dry.... quite dry actually, which was really surprising given the sweetness on the nose, how good this is!
12.50% alc seemed wrong, as it was delicate, light and not intrusive at all. White peach, lemon/lemonade, and some florals in there. Just a wonderful example of perfectly
ripe fruit handled exceptionally well. Nice long lenght, soft texture.

Wine # 3 - 2010 Alain Burguet Les Rouges Du Dessus Vosne Romanee Premier Cru
Maybe im playing the man here, but feels VERY Italian. Salty Sea Air, salinity, Earthy, spicy, Tannin, chalky tannin actually. So interesting and so much going on. Feels very young though, 2012 - 2014 ish. Acidity and oak still settling down. Some slight violets, wonderful bright red in the glass. Some slight cherry and violets towards the end. On the lighter side of medium weight, and spicy... not pepper spice, more clove/cinnamon type spice. Love those chalky tannins, just needs time.

Wine # 4 - 2007 Louis Jadot Echezeaux Grand Cru
Some initial vegetal notes blew off with air. Feels older like a mid 90's wine. Menthol and lots of earth. Gravelly tannin here... and had trouble picking the region. Lovely handle of oak, supports those very high quality fruits.... more darker fruit spectrum. Black cherries, blackberries, blueberries ect. Then menthol/mintyness on the end as well.

Wine # 5 - 2006 Woodlands 'Robert' Cabernet Sauvignon
Immediately picked this as new world. Those stunning fruits leapt out of the glass. Very fruit driven and fruit forward wine. Blackberries, black currents, some slight capsicum notes
as well. Earthy wine, very earthy in fact. Not syrupy or over ripe, well integrated and oak a supporting role (not over done). Didnt pick this as Woodlands as everything I have read on this
wine says its syrupy, ripe and over oaked style, which I didnt find in this wine at all. Spectacular!

Wine # 6- 2006 Chateau Leoville Barton (St Julien)
Gee this was was pure Bordeaux. Lovely expression of gravel & graphite. The structure here just wonderful. Tannin dancing around the mouth, oak perfectly judged and the length was fantastic. Liquorice/Aniseed type
notes on the front palate. Some pencil shavings and slight tobacco says to me majority Cab. Not sure of % but would think 70%+?
Opened up in the glass and last sip had some violets and slight dark chocolate dust.

Wine # 7 - 2004 Chateau Leoville Barton (St Julien)
Another Barton! This was completely different to the 2006. Vintage variation showed
here (I thought). This was slightly more on the redberry spectrum than the black. Slight redcurrant, some cranberry (not the sourness though) and plums. Still had that minerality and mint/menthol with some capsicum, but didnt get as much of the graphite and gravel as the 06... maybe palate fatigue... years left though.

I didnt take notes on these unfortunatley

Bullers Premium Liqueur Muscat (believed to be 1996)

Baileys Bundarra HJT Liqueur Tokay
Super notes, each one very much enjoyed. Tasting blind is always a lot of fun and that comes through in the notes.

Thanks ............... Mahmoud.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:53 am
by Rossco
Mahmoud Ali wrote: Super notes, each one very much enjoyed. Tasting blind is always a lot of fun and that comes through in the notes.

Thanks ............... Mahmoud.
Its amazing how much you concentrate and discover more nuisances in each wine served blind than when you know what it is.
Put aside trying to identify the country & region, sometimes simply identifying the grape variety is really tough!

Appreciate the thoughts as well and glad the enjoyment comes through in the notes, these are wonderful nights

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:04 am
by phillisc
Coriole '16 Sparta Shiraz. A vineyard surrounded by an olive grove and I swear I can taste kalamata. A good full bodied robust MV red.
Cheers Craig

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:28 pm
by mychurch
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Just before I moved here last year we drank the 09 of this at my goodbye dinner. As Sheldon would say to his favourite cushion ‘I’ve missed you old friend’. This is of course a lot younger and it will take some time to develop. This is heavier than other vintages. Honey and quince on the nose. Palate is rich - think Demi-sec vouvray, but it’s thick, finished dry and is loaded with more quince, honey and some minerality. Good finish. Lovely stuff. Don’t think this is available locally, and as it’s too warm now here to rick ordering from abroad, I’ll have to wait until the Autumn before ordering the next vintage. Big Yum.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:05 am
by sjw_11
mychurch wrote: Just before I moved here last year we drank the 09 of this at my goodbye dinner. As Sheldon would say to his favourite cushion ‘I’ve missed you old friend’. This is of course a lot younger and it will take some time to develop. This is heavier than other vintages. Honey and quince on the nose. Palate is rich - think Demi-sec vouvray, but it’s thick, finished dry and is loaded with more quince, honey and some minerality. Good finish. Lovely stuff. Don’t think this is available locally, and as it’s too warm now here to rick ordering from abroad, I’ll have to wait until the Autumn before ordering the next vintage. Big Yum.
Interesting, I have never heard of Romorantin before. Will have to look out for these.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:09 am
by Ian S
2015 Cesconi Nosiola (Trentino region of Italy, up in the north-east). An earlier bottle had issues (rubber/creosote), but 2 years later the 2nd bottle realy enjoyable, adding some honey/butter to the rather savoury/grassy fruit. Not a fancy wine, but has developed some decent complexity.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:20 am
by Scotty vino
Pulled a 2006 O'Leary Walker 'Claire' Shiraz from the pit to have tonight with TG dinner. See how it goes.

Decanted for 90 mins or so...Aniseed , blue berries, cool fruits, liquorice, spice, pepper, touch of acetone, green cap, slight green vegetal, slight eucalyptus / stalkiness, Black olive and coffee/ choc . Tannins very soft yep fine and direct , beautiful fragrant dark cherry aftertaste/ finish with minimal oak very fresh wine for its age. Fantastic structure all
Good . Acceptable alc level .

There was a great cool climate feel to this wine. I purchased this cellar door 10-11 years ago. Spent half that time in a wine fridge and then moved to the passive cellar. So decent provenance. I know know 'passive' is a dirty word to some but stability wise my underground setup is very good having tracked it for a few years now.

End of the day for points sake i'd say 94-95 mark. But what's the point? :P :P

oh yeah seal was SC for what it's worth.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:14 am
by thebrady28
Heading out to dinner with friends tonight, actually it's a tasting for my wedding.
So grabbed a few bottles for tonight

2 x Leasingham Classic Clare Watervale Riesling 2012
1 x Grant Burge Meshach Shiraz 2008
1 x Penfolds St Henri Shiraz 2008
1 x St Hallett Old Block Shiraz 2012

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:24 pm
by phillisc
TB28, please report on the Leasingham, have a dozen quietly resting in the cellar.
Cheers Craig

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:57 pm
by thebrady28
Not sure when I stockpiled the Leasingham, because found 1 under the stairs not too long ago - from memory was pretty happy with it.
Then searching this morning around the white and found another 3 :) always a nice surprise, not sure what's under the stairs at times!
Will let you know how they go tonight.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:09 pm
by mychurch
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Not a fan of the Auz version of this grape, but there are a few exceptions. This is one. Skin contact and no filtration has made for a thick, Alsatian lookalike. Not normally a fan of clones, but this honeyed, slightly spicy wine, with a lot of bitterness on the finish, is food friendly and complex. Good stuff. 115 cases made.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:34 am
by thebrady28
phillisc wrote:TB28, please report on the Leasingham, have a dozen quietly resting in the cellar.
Cheers Craig
Both went down super well, plan was to have them with the Canapes, but they were opened before and struggled to last that long.
Don't remember what it tasted like younger to compare how it's developed.
But for now it was great, honeybutter.. didn't need food to assist was doing well on it's own.
Drinking very well now and reckon it prob will continue nicely.
Be nice to have more than 1 bottle left.
Worthwhile getting into 1 now if you have 12 sitting and see how they come along.

Was pretty disappointed with the Meshach, but maybe that was because it was followed by the Henri.
Had a few end up driving so the Old Block didn't get opened.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:08 am
by phillisc
An 02 and 04 Seppelts Victorian Shiraz...ceased after the 06 vintage and at one time a bit of an exclusive bottling for Vintage cellars as all vintages under screw cap. Drank the 04 over 2 nights as it needed 24 hours to breathe, it was almost port like to begin with but a lovely wine, still with primary fruits, pepper, spice, solid tannins on the finish. The 02 was equally good, but softer on the finish. I do marvel at these cheapie regional Shiraz wines bottled under screw cap in terms of just how long they will go...at a rough guess another 5 years easily. For the princely sum of $60 a dozen :D

Cheers craig

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:31 pm
by Ozzie W
2017 Ravensworth Nebbiolo Rosé de Florete
This is one of the most unique wines I think I've ever tried and unlike any Rosé I've ever tasted.

Made by adding flor yeast to some barrels of Nebbiolo Rosé, waiting 2 years without touching it, and then bottling it.

A weird concoction indeed but, at the same time intriguing. It paired well with cheese. Hard to describe what I'm tasting. Red jelly, walnuts, ginger biscuits, and other stuff I can't articulate. More savoury than fruity. Long off-dry finish, or is it dry -- I can't quite decide. Made in the style of Sherry, but I've never tasted one so I can't make any comparisons.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:59 pm
by phillisc
2013 Bleasdale Frank Potts...quite well developed, good easy drinking...a bargain price for a flagship red.
Cheers Craig.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:12 pm
by mychurch
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Online tasting with Jelle in Amsterdam. This is one of his - 2010 Touraine Blanc from Francois Plouzeau. Only problem here is that we ended up tasting different vintages - he had the ‘13 (which is available in Auz). My wine started very fat, with a yellow streak indicating age, some sherbet in the mid palate and a bitter finish. With air though it opened up, becoming lighter and more focused, with a definite mineral touch on the finish. The 13 version had a lighter colour and was seems to be quite focused, but it started to fall apart with air. Interesting tasting.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:21 pm
by Rossco
Probably should have posted this in the Barolo thread........ oh well.

Special Italian themed evening. As usual all wines served blind:

Wine # 1 (just a starter, not on theme)- 2014 Domaine Jean Collet & Fils Chablis Grand Cru Les Clos
One sniff and you are in old world immediately, that wonderful nose.
Initially some Barley Sugar and ripe yellow peach/fruit characters, I wasn't in Chablis at the start (more Mersault)
but then with a little air and warming up, was changing rapidly in the glass.
Nectarine and a backbone of grapefruit acidity. Minerals, Salty Sea Air. Feels and looks like it has some age on it
.... 2010 maybe? (wrong!) but didnt see any pre-mox - Light gold in colour I do like the weight of this wine. Sits very nicely.
Couldnt detect much oak, old oak used? I do like the length on this with the Chablis oyster shell and talc coming out at
the end. Didnt get the brine though.

Wine # 2 - 2015 Bartolo Mascarello Dolcetto d'Alba

Looks very young in the glass. Dark purple and purple fruit spectrum. Not an oaky wine, not large tannin either. Fruit Tannin here. Feels Tuscan... I wonder if it has some Sangiovese blended in?... No Rossco.......straight Dolcetto. Well its my first Dolcetto, so another variety i can tick off my list!
Violets, Lavender, plums, blackberries
Acid in the wine is jutting out, but again that seem due to young age and just needs some time to integrate.

Wine # 3 - 2001 Giuseppe E Figlio Mascarello Barolo Monprivato
Tar, Cherries, Red Fruits of Raspberries and Cherries. New Leather.... and what Power this wine has. Commanding even. Dry earth and acidity felt like a barbaresco of sorts. What a lovely wine, ultra high quality... we are really in Xmas when a wine of this quality gets presented. Dusty tannins, on the light to medium weight. So elegant, but with that power still behind it. Has to be a traditional producer here, fruit just sings and no sign of oak (older oak again?) - Still feels young and i was pretty shocked to realise it was 18 years old. (more shocks came throughout the night). Superb length... WOW

Wine # 4 - 1999 Azelia Barolo Bricco Fiasco
Black Cherry, Tar and Oak very evident on the nose. Just smelling this wine it feels modernist.
Medicinal Cherry flavours in there at the start, Blueberries and actually surprising grippy & fine tannin.
Big hit of Vanilla... American Oak? - Lots of oak overpowering the fruit at the moment,
wonder how young this is... 2010? - Wow Rossco............. you are SO wrong and have much more the learn (as future wines will attest)

Balsamic sweetness notes, but not the acidity. Something else as well... mushroom, leather and tobacco perhaps...
So many years ahead, needs a long sleep to resolve.... but its a 99! 20 years old and doesnt show it at all. Wow what a surprise. Just goes to show how long lived some of these wines can be.

Wine # 5 (Oxidised) - 2000 Roagna Barbaresco Crichet Paje
Such a shame, never seen or heard of this producer (due to sheer rarity) and
# 728 of 2,000 produced.

Wine # 6 - 2008 Giacomo Conterno Barolo Cascina Francia
Elegant fruit, so clean and structured. Everything in its place. Its presenting exactly like it should.
Floral, crushed violets and some slight lavender. Feels youngish, but as i have experienced already, could be a 90's or early 2000.
So delicate and feminine - has to be traditional producer, no new oak here.
Got some dried red roses and dried raspberries on the palate. Beautiful soft and fine
tannins, perfectly judged. Love this wine.

Wine # 7- 2011 Giuseppe E Figlio Mascarello Barolo Monprivato
Raspberries, florals... some fennel as well. Rose petals, liquorice and menthol. Again just a lovely elegant and feminine wine. Does feel younger than the others, but traditional producer in every respect. Wild Herbs and oregano, the length is fantastic.
How good is this wine, can only be a barolo after the others we have had (finally got one right). Towards the end there was a slight orange zest kind of note as well. Just kept unfurling in the glass.Wonderful.... wonderful wine!

WIne # 8- 2011 Roberto Voerzio Barolo La Serra
Having never had this wine or producer before, I wasnt sure what to expect.
Lots of raspberry on the nose, very fruity nose in fact. Red rope liquorice, and some musk. Has an energy i haven't seen in a lot of other wines. Powerful energy. Tannins coating the teeth... weird feeling.... furry tannins but still thoroughly enjoyable.
Low acid, again feminine type fruit but has oak in there. Not overpowering, but is prominent at the moment. Age will be very kind to this wine, and once the oak integrates more, this will will be singing. Ultra high quality fruit, earthy minerals.... gee I would love to see this in 5 - 10 years (lucky i have one left!)

Wine # 9 (Faulty) - 2004 Giovanni Sordo Riserva Barolo Rocche di Castiglione

Wine # 10 (Back up) - 2006 Tua Rita Redigaffi Toscana IGT

Now this is a wine that defies everything and anything i thought I knew about wine, and i truly thank this person for bringing it.
This is exactly why I love wines served blind with like-minded people.

Black in colour... ink black and so very dark in the glass. Huge oak on the nose as well. Very oaky and at the moment overpowers the fruit. Feels like a barrel sample its so young. I guessed 2015........ hahahahahaha oh again, you are SO VERY wrong.
High acid and high tannins still battling it out.... wait is this a new world wine? Fruit and Oak feels like new world.... or is it a super tuscan? Cant pick variety as yet.... Cabernet, Shiraz? This is Big, Rich and powerful. Everything is wound up to 11ty. Blowing my mind here such an intriguing wine.
Dark plums, blackberries, black olives, and some cracked pepper. Still cant get over that intensity, what a learning experience.... and guess what.... 100% Merlot....AND 2006..... W... T ... F - Mind blown

Wine # 11 (Backup) - 2015 Giovanni Sordo Barolo Rocche di Castiglione
Definitely younger wine here, just needs time. Black Tea tannins, some raspberries and black cherry as well. I like this wine, i like the slatey minerals in here... gravel type notes as well.

Wine # 12 - A.D Campbell & Co - Rutherglen Old Liqueur Muscat

No written notes, but I remember a olive rim, burnt toffee, very very dark in colour but you could still see through it..... kind of translucent. Not much rancio, I wasnt in tawny country. Pedro perhaps? Didnt have the treacle or syrup type sweetness for Pedro though. Nice acidity backbone. Lovely silky wine. I think it was a NV

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:08 am
by JamieBahrain
Yeah shame you put such delightful wines amongst the riffraff here. Lovely notes. Hope you’ve caught the bug!

I’m so happy you have been given a great introduction to Monprivato. Many folks are confused by the experience for a variety of reasons and the price commanded these days much better is expected up front.

Azelia is a superb producer. That said I don’t think BF handled the oak as well as their Cru SAN Roccco. Margheria is made more traditionally . The regular Barolo outperforms.

I want to drink more Voerzio . It’s expensive and perhaps controversial . Confusion over whether to drink young or old but that’s a longer post.

The Roagna seems a bit odd to me . We raised a thousand Aussie a bottle at a charity auction sat night with our allocation . Promotion follows -

2013 Roagna Complete Horizontal

1 x 2013 Roagna Barbaresco Faset

1 x 2013 Roagna Barbaresco Paje

1 x 2013 Roagna Barbaresco Asili Vecchie Viti

1 x 2013 Roagna Barbaresco Montefico Vecchie Viti

1 x 2013 Roagna Barbaresco Paje Vecchie Viti

1 x 2013 Roagna Barolo del Commune di Barolo

1 x 2013 Roagna Barolo Pira

1 x 2013 Roagna Barolo Vecchie Viti



The above horizontal set was taken out from Luca Roagna’s annual allocation to the HKWS. The old vines (Vecchie Viti) wines all from 50+ years old vines, and less than 2000 bottles release per year.

A bottle each of Barbaresco Faset and Barolo del Commune di Barolo are included, the first vintage for both wines. The Barolo del Commune di Barolo coming from a 0.17 ha vineyard in Terlo area (located between Le Coste of Barolo, Ravera, and the center of the village), owned by the family of Luca’s girlfriend Romina.



1 x 2010 Roagna Barbaresco Crichet Paje

1 x 2010 Roagna Barbaresco Crichet Paje



1682 bottles of Crichet Paje were produced in vintage 2010. The word Crichet is translated as “top of the small hill” and Crichet Paje refers to the top part of the Paje vineyard. Crafted from 60+ years old vines and released around 8-10 years from vintage, this is not only one of the very best traditionist Barbaresco around but one of the great wines of the world.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:29 am
by Rossco
JamieBahrain wrote:Hope you’ve caught the bug!
100% Caught the bug! So much so that im in the process of a massive shift in my cellar to majority Italian wines and
particularly the Northern Region. I have found the more traditional producers, and less oak is what im after.

JamieBahrain wrote: I want to drink more Voerzio . It’s expensive and perhaps controversial . Confusion over whether to drink young or old but that’s a longer post.
I can see why there is confusion. It does drink well now, but (in this 2011 example) I thought it needed more time to integrate
the oak. So much power behind that fruit is probably the confusing aspect. Didnt get much acidity, so I wonder if thats assisting the
confusion as well. Yes it is expensive, but considering the prices here of other top producers, not really out of step I thought.

Either way, Neb is king :-D

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:43 am
by Ian S
JamieBahrain wrote:Yeah shame you put such delightful wines amongst the riffraff here.
Oi! I resemble that remark!! :wink:

At a slight tangent, a friend dug out a 1991 (UK) Oddbins price list this weekend. It's always interesting to see how relative prices have changed. Whilst we all know about Penfolds price escalation (Bin707 was £15 a bottle), I didn't realise they also stocked Giacomo Conterno in Oddbins at that time. Arneis, plus Barolo (about £14 IIRC) , Barolo Riserva (£20?), but the one that stood out was 1979 Monfortino, the only Monfortino I've ever drunk, was a princely £23 a bottle.

If anyone has a TARDIS they aren't using, then I'd like to hire it please.

Re: Right, what are we/you drinking now .. tonight

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:56 am
by Mahmoud Ali
JamieBahrain wrote:Yeah shame you put such delightful wines amongst the riffraff here.
Yes, it's time to be a bit more clear about our tasting note threads here on Auswine Forum. Starting in the new year we should have two different threads:

- January 2020 Tasting Notes of Riffraff Wines, and
- January 2020 Tasting Notes of Premium Wines.

We could also have a "What Are The Riffraff Drinking Tonight". Oops, I meant to say "What Riffraff Wines Are You Drinking Tonight"

Mahmoud.