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Plenty of life left in it. Not had enough experience with older ones to tell you if they start to fall over.

I'd be confident it will make it till they are 18 and if you can keep your hands off them probably 21.

Ozzie W wrote:

michel wrote:2014 DRC Grand Echezaux
Stems perfume
Accessible
But then it shut down
I quarantined it & it blossomed with ethereal earthy terroir
I love it

michel wrote:2014 DRC GE
double blind stems white flowers with incredible heady perfume
I guessed Dujac Echezaux
this is a great wine and in 10 years will be special

Two DRCs in 4 days. You live the life Michel!

Bit out of my control
A mates seriously important birthday
And incredible generosity
I opened a 2008 Rousseau Ruchottes that had earthy complexity, fine tannins with 08 acidity
Most excellent but the DRC was a Knights move

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Luke W wrote:Squid Ink Sparkling Shiraz: sexy, sweet black fruit, sensual - best at about 15 degrees. Glides over the palate. Not as complex as the Rockford but still wonderful value when reduced to $27 a bottle.

100% agree here. Soft, silky mousse and mouthfeel. Perfectly judged dosage. Not overly sweet or porty, and interestingly its not a spicy/peppery shiraz either. Blackberries and milk chocolate. Wouldnt pick it as McLaren vale, and its not that complex, but it doesnt matter. This is a wonderful wine for the $27 it cost. Wish i bought more than 6, as this is a really wonderful sparkling shiraz i will drink over the summer (and run out of)..... onto the coates soon

Heineken NV

Tastes like beer and it’s not great. Pale yellow with some froth.

2011 Brokenwook ILR Reserve Semillon

The thing that stood out for me with this wine was the length.... so powerful, so intense, yet
so good..... just went on and on and on.

Nothing overblown just everything in the right place. Beeswax in the mouth, not oily, again just perfectly judged.
Citrus of lemon/lime, a bit of talc and some slately/minerals. Slight Grassy note and perfectly balanced
acid. Loved it

Had some '09 Shea Wine Cellars 'Shea Vineyards' Cahrdonnay, Oregon (14.5%) - the fruit has faded and all that's left is a very woody shell. Amerian chardonnays just do not have the staying power of Australian and NZ chardonnays. (The '09 Greywhacke earlier this year is the first to come to mind) Then the rest of a 2010 Clos du Soleil 'Signature', British Columbia, Canada (13.6%) that was opened and sampled earlier in the day. A Bordeaux blend that is half merlot and the rest being cabernet, malbec and petit verdot. Dry, elegant and restrained in the day, by evening it had developed fleshy, sweet fruit. Nice but perplexing.

Now finishing the last of the N/V Sevenhill Touriga Port, yumm.....

Rossco wrote:2011 Brokenwook ILR Reserve Semillon

The thing that stood out for me with this wine was the length.... so powerful, so intense, yet
so good..... just went on and on and on.

Nothing overblown just everything in the right place. Beeswax in the mouth, not oily, again just perfectly judged.
Citrus of lemon/lime, a bit of talc and some slately/minerals. Slight Grassy note and perfectly balanced
acid. Loved it

Just mentioned this on another forum, as the only young Hunter Semillon I've experienced where there is good complexity at such a tender age.
On the flip-side, I've never been convinced of ageing potential of Brokenwood's semillons. Not that the ILR will fall over, but I felt it would be on the downslope before (e.g.) the Tyrrells single vineyard bottlings would be nearing peak. Am I misjudging it?

Ian S wrote:
Just mentioned this on another forum, as the only young Hunter Semillon I've experienced where there is good complexity at such a tender age.
On the flip-side, I've never been convinced of ageing potential of Brokenwood's semillons. Not that the ILR will fall over, but I felt it would be on the downslope before (e.g.) the Tyrrells single vineyard bottlings would be nearing peak. Am I misjudging it?

Absolutely not misjudging it as i had the same thoughts. It was just so drinkable and approachable now, will it get better? How long will it age? All running through my head. But geee watch out if it does get better.... will be a 103 point wine

Redman cabernet 1977 from 6ltr imperial.
Shining. Very much still thriving and alive.
Faded dark fruit. Soft oak, leather and spice. Awesome mouthfeel and length.
A real treat.

Hunter wrote:Redman cabernet 1977 from 6ltr imperial. Shining. Very much still thriving and alive. Faded dark fruit. Soft oak, leather and spice. Awesome mouthfeel and length. A real treat.

I'm both impressed and jealous. I'd love to know the alcohol level, bet you it was low, as was many of the older wines.

Mahmoud.

2016 Ashton Hills Pinot Noir Piccadilly Valley, Adelaide Hills

Light to medium bodied. Savoury fruit displaying raspberries, strawberries, a touch of spice and forest floor. Fine tannins and very good finish. A well balanced and very enjoyable wine. Drink now to 5 years.

kinda big weekend

standouts were
2009 Soldera - less thumbprint on it than the 2008- lovely mouth feel and perfume
2012 Anne Gros Echezaux - such a feminine style
2009 Bartolo Mascarello barolo- wonderful style light and long but eventually became kinda sulky
1995 Rousseau Beze this is why burgundy is thrilling
2001 Rayas - double blind once again I call this a burgundy .....I love this maker
2010 Masseto thrills spills and bellyaches - brilliant
1975 Ferdinand Pieroth Monchhofer Pfaffenberg trockenbeerenauslese eiswein - tasted like an old d'yquem
others
2002 Stonyridge Larose actually v young
2005 Jadot csj excellent no rush to drink
2007 Pegau cuvee de capo - i prefer the regular cndp - too big for me
2014 Tyrrells 4 acre shiraz sulphur tight with pure racey perfume- I would like a date with this in 15 years time
2009 2010 Oliver Bernstein Charmes gc - bit dominated by the maker - dominating lumpy
2011 ? Duck Muck clunky style lacks charm but others loved it - I am not sure of the year the bottle had no year but a gold niko pen writing in one corner

Incredible list of wines there Michel...would be good for a list of best wines for a year, let alone a weekend!

good call on the Bernstein Michel, no doubt he worked both those vintages to the max. Indeed, he actually made better wines in 2007, when he basically couldn't do too much with them.

michel wrote: ... 2011 ? Duck Muck clunky style lacks charm but others loved it - I am not sure of the year the bottle had no year but a gold niko pen writing in one corner

Hmmm, gold pen writing in the corner you say. Sounds very much like the kind of writing on the bottle that my partner got at cellar door, except that ours was in silver. During the manual bottling David Anderson went into office at the side and put a front label on the bottle. There was no vintage on the label, nor the name Duck Muck, so he wrote the vintage and name of the wine on the back of the bottle. It is likely that the gold writing you saw was the vintage.

Mahmoud.

Addit

1989 Alsace Clos St Hune most excellent but young in comparison to others on the day
1997 Hugel VT tokay pinot gris v good but young

michel wrote: 1989 Alsace Clos St Hune most excellent but young in comparison to others on the day

VT or "regular"?
Have you tried the 89 VT before? If so, comparisons?

deejay81 wrote:

michel wrote: 1989 Alsace Clos St Hune most excellent but young in comparison to others on the day

VT or "regular"?
Have you tried the 89 VT before? If so, comparisons?

VT
nope never had it
my companions were all over it as a vineyard of some renown and style

michel wrote:

deejay81 wrote:

michel wrote: 1989 Alsace Clos St Hune most excellent but young in comparison to others on the day

VT or "regular"?
Have you tried the 89 VT before? If so, comparisons?

VT
nope never had it
my companions were all over it as a vineyard of some renown and style

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Altare, oak and 05? Not your style Michel.

JamieBahrain wrote:Altare, oak and 05? Not your style Michel.

Yep
one of the group members a Wine Journalist loves it
I cant stand it

I've been impressed enough with older Altare I've cellared Arborina and Cannubi. Having been stereotyped and fallen out of fashion, quite well priced especially from underrated vintages- 2008 and 2006 ( underhyped a better word)

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Sean wrote:Ten Minutes By Tractor 10X Pinot Noir 2015 - Sourced from various Mornington Peninsula vineyards, handpicked, 95% destemmed and got a wild yeast ferment with manual plunging. Ten months in French oak barrels, 15% new. This is just an entry level pinot, but shows quality. An extra year of bottle age, which helps smooth out a pinot like this. Dark cherry, rhubarb, spice and hints of earth and undergrowth. A clean, robust feel to it that also has dusty, oak-influenced tannins. The finish gets better with air.

Pepperjack Certified Shiraz Cabernet 2016 - A trophy winner at the Great Australian Red competition this year. I can see why. Purpley colour and intense. Rich black fruits, red cherry, licorice and spice. Gobfuls of generous sweet fruit, mocha oak and soft, dry tannins. Ramped up to get your attention (and it does) with loads of drinking appeal and quick satisfaction. This is physical, not cerebral. Really instead of writing a tasting note on this, I should just open a second bottle that I got.

Sean, not tried it, but the cynic in me says TWE new label to go with one of their best sellers + trophy = I can see why

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michel wrote:kinda big weekend

standouts were
2009 Soldera - less thumbprint on it than the 2008- lovely mouth feel and perfume
2012 Anne Gros Echezaux - such a feminine style
2009 Bartolo Mascarello barolo- wonderful style light and long but eventually became kinda sulky
1995 Rousseau Beze this is why burgundy is thrilling
2001 Rayas - double blind once again I call this a burgundy .....I love this maker
2010 Masseto thrills spills and bellyaches - brilliant
1975 Ferdinand Pieroth Monchhofer Pfaffenberg trockenbeerenauslese eiswein - tasted like an old d'yquem
others
2002 Stonyridge Larose actually v young
2005 Jadot csj excellent no rush to drink
2007 Pegau cuvee de capo - i prefer the regular cndp - too big for me
2014 Tyrrells 4 acre shiraz sulphur tight with pure racey perfume- I would like a date with this in 15 years time
2009 2010 Oliver Bernstein Charmes gc - bit dominated by the maker - dominating lumpy
2011 ? Duck Muck clunky style lacks charm but others loved it - I am not sure of the year the bottle had no year but a gold niko pen writing in one corner

Nice line up. Must be getting close to Christmas.

Last Friday I attended the MBSC Christmas Grand Cru function, we had the following.

2006 Agrapart - Grand Cru Mineral Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut.
2005 Bouchard - Chevalier Montrachet La Cabotte.
2004 Joseph Drouhin - Chambertin.
1996 Frederic Esmonin - Chambertin Clos de Beze.
2007 Jean Grivot - Richebourg.
2009 Pierre Damoy - Chambertin Clos de Beze.
2011 Domaine de la Vougeraie - Corton Clos du Roi
2012 Arlaud - Clos de la Roche
1976 Bouchard - Clos Vougeot
2005 JJ Prum - Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese
NV Orlando - 1957 Base Show Tawny Port / Blend No 7007D7.

Tomorrow night I'm going to another Christmas wine function, line up is looking really good.

Cheers Con.

2004 Pavie still very tannic and a little closed. Pretty good, but will never be anything special. 89pts

2009 Rousseau Gevrey Chambertin nice bright red fruits, good length but still all-in-all a simple wine. Not a patch on the Fourrier version of the same vintage. This Domaine's reputation is forged on it's stellar top three wines, the rest represent pretty poor value for money IMO. 88pts

2001 Rieussec Still pretty young, but showing well. Over-hyped at release, and not anywhere near the lofty standards of d'Yquem, Suduiraut and Climens from that vintage. Give it another 5 years. 91pts

Hi Con,
what was the Arlaud CdlR like?

felixp21 wrote: 2009 Rousseau Gevrey Chambertin nice bright red fruits, good length but still all-in-all a simple wine. Not a patch on the Fourrier version of the same vintage. This Domaine's reputation is forged on it's stellar top three wines, the rest represent pretty poor value for money IMO. 88pts

By Top 3 do you mean Chambertin, Beze and CSJ?
I actually think the Charmes and CdlR are pretty good value..actually a lot of the lesser GCs are of decent value..although I do think the quality can be quite variable...but you're looking at 200-300 (USD)...Compared to the Gevrey which is around 100 USD and not worth it at all...the prices of the top 3 make them very questionable value wise as well....