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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:22 am
by Scanlon
My wine collection has filled half my wardrobe, and is now colonising my bedroom floor.

before I break my neck, i'm thinking of shelling out for some storage space at a facility.

Can anyone recommend any places? closest (but far enough that I can't just walk over and raid it randomly) to me is a kennards (?). Has anyone had any experience with them?

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:15 am
by Nayan
Scanlon wrote:My wine collection has filled half my wardrobe, and is now colonising my bedroom floor.

before I break my neck, i'm thinking of shelling out for some storage space at a facility.

Can anyone recommend any places? closest (but far enough that I can't just walk over and raid it randomly) to me is a kennards (?). Has anyone had any experience with them?

Sarah,

I had nothing but good experiences with Kennards. Close enough to town not make it difficult to get your wine, but awkward enough (due to the wonders of Port Road) to make you think twice (occasionally) about raiding to grab your best bottles. Friendly staff and a fair rental policy too.

N.

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:36 pm
by Scanlon
Nayan wrote:
Scanlon wrote:My wine collection has filled half my wardrobe, and is now colonising my bedroom floor.

before I break my neck, i'm thinking of shelling out for some storage space at a facility.

Can anyone recommend any places? closest (but far enough that I can't just walk over and raid it randomly) to me is a kennards (?). Has anyone had any experience with them?

Sarah,

I had nothing but good experiences with Kennards. Close enough to town not make it difficult to get your wine, but awkward enough (due to the wonders of Port Road) to make you think twice (occasionally) about raiding to grab your best bottles. Friendly staff and a fair rental policy too.

N.


cool, thanks Nayan :)

ps we miss you in adels!

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:34 pm
by Hill Of Grace
Hi all,

I moved into my new digs and we have a cemented sealed under house storage area with shelves fitted (no racking system though).

I have stored my wine in their original boxes and the long term stuff in a styrofoam fruit case which I got when I bought a magnum from Tahbilk, which fits about 18 bottles comfortably.

The temperature in the area is well below outside, and yesterday for instance was 38 outside and down below I would suggest was easily 20 degrees less, although slightly humid. I have ordered a hygrometer/thermometer to verify its "wine friendliness.

I mostly buy "Now to 3 year" prospects as I am a self confessed Stelvin junkie after years of dissapointment from spolied wine which has been nurtued only for the cork to taint it, but I do buy the odd put away for a decade or so and would love to know others opinions on how I am cellaring and what improvements I could make other than a rack system.

I have blocked out the only window and at 5 last night it was black as ink under the house, so there are no light issues. The shelving is on a west facing wall but it is double brick, and the area is extremely well ventilated.

There is a dug out area which would need levelling and cementing but is directly below a Coonara heater which has yet to be used in the first winter, but I would think the wine would be better off next to the west wall than under a Coonara.

Look forward to any suggestions

good

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:40 pm
by dazza1968
Sounds really good 8)

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:32 pm
by Hill Of Grace
OK I have installed the hygrometer and after 2 straight 37 degree days the "cellar" is sitting at 23 degrees with 51% humidity in the open and the polystyrene fruit box was only 1-2 degrees cooler.

Given the last two days are in the extreme and is dark and well ventilated, should this be suitable for an "average Joe and a bit" cellar ?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:37 pm
by Red Bigot
Hill Of Grace wrote:OK I have installed the hygrometer and after 2 straight 37 degree days the "cellar" is sitting at 23 degrees with 51% humidity in the open and the polystyrene fruit box was only 1-2 degrees cooler.

Given the last two days are in the extreme and is dark and well ventilated, should this be suitable for an "average Joe and a bit" cellar ?


It depends how long you want to cellar your wines and what temp it gets to after 2 weeks of mid-summer temps. Even 23 is a bit high for cellaring more than about 5 years I would guess.

You might do better with less ventilation unless humidity becomes a problem.

cooler

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:04 pm
by dazza1968
in my cellar after the first few days of extreme heat , i installed a cooling unit and now 5 years later have never regretted it.
its sits at 18 degrees all year round. have considered a unit down to 14 degrees but in perth it does not seem practical , ground runs at 19.5 so still fighting with the elements , as such...............humidity is always at 70% approx which from what i know is really good IMO :D

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:47 pm
by Hill Of Grace
Cheers for that advice Red Bigot

I noticed that there is some framing on the other side of the concreted area which is about 2-3 metres further away from the west wall, I may build some shelving and put the lot in styrofoam. We are in the Yarra Valley so we tend to be a few degrees cooler in summer than the burbs.

I have also added a 1 metre tub with 30 cms of water to nudge the humidity a tad.

The only long haul wines I am keeping is a magnum of 1999 Tahbilk CS, a Bin 407, a 2002 Zema CS, 1998 Stocks Shiraz, and some 2001 Cathcart Ridge CS. The rest are looking to be consumed in the next 3 or 4 years.

I will be in the market for some "big" wines next year when I go for my Barossa pilgrimage which I hope to have it all sorted by then.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:10 pm
by Shiraz Man
I have my wines stored under my parents' house. Their house is on stumps, and throughout the year the temperature is both cool and fairly constant. It is also dark.

I have been drinking some of my 1998's recently, and yes whilst it was a great vintage, they are drinking beautifully, which indicates the conditions are good.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:59 pm
by Scanlon
I'm pleased to report my wines are happily ensconced in climate and humidity controlled comfort at kennards now.

Thank god - it's been bloody 30+ for days a week here!

temp

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:44 am
by dazza1968
Scanlon wrote:I'm pleased to report my wines are happily ensconced in climate and humidity controlled comfort at kennards now.

Thank god - it's been bloody 30+ for days a week here!
How warm was your room :?: Peace of mind is a wonderful thing :)

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:39 pm
by Hill Of Grace
After 2 normal Yarra Valley spring days the cellar under the house has stabilised at 15 degrees with 69% humidity, with a max of 16 degrees and 69% humidity. :D

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:05 pm
by river
Most of my wine is stored offsite which offers me peace of mind and the fact I can't get to it in a hurry has been a blessing on more than one occassion.

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:07 pm
by cush
griff wrote:Keep in cardboard box (the street people are right - cardboard is an excellent insulator)


but look at how they age :)

Re: temp

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:28 pm
by Scanlon
dazza1968 wrote:
Scanlon wrote:I'm pleased to report my wines are happily ensconced in climate and humidity controlled comfort at kennards now.

Thank god - it's been bloody 30+ for days a week here!
How warm was your room :?: Peace of mind is a wonderful thing :)


honestly - i don't want to think about it. we have had WEEKS before in that flat where we've had to sleep in the loungeroom, as it's the only one with an aircon, (and irony had it that it was the coolest room in the house?!)

Only prob is now it's a major effort to dig out the vino required for friday's offline! I'm going to be majorly rushed!!

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:26 pm
by Red Red Wine
For the moment I'm gonna put them under the house until I can build something more suitable or find a cheap ass fridge.

Re: temp

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:44 pm
by Nayan
Scanlon wrote:Only prob is now it's a major effort to dig out the vino required for friday's offline!

Don't say I didn't warn you! :wink: