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We have a remarkable parcel of Wendouree wines on offer. Every red wine made by Wendouree, between and including 1998 and 2016, is represented. You get one bottle of each wine for $14k

crusty2 wrote:While not a note I did receive this offer today

We have a remarkable parcel of Wendouree wines on offer. Every red wine made by Wendouree, between and including 1998 and 2016, is represented. You get one bottle of each wine for $14k

Shiraz, Shiraz/Malbec Shiraz/Mataro, Cabernet, Cab/Malbec, Malbec and Pressings.
Impressive lineup and an equally impressive price.

crusty2 wrote:While not a note I did receive this offer today

We have a remarkable parcel of Wendouree wines on offer. Every red wine made by Wendouree, between and including 1998 and 2016, is represented. You get one bottle of each wine for $14k

Shiraz, Shiraz/Malbec Shiraz/Mataro, Cabernet, Cab/Malbec, Malbec and Pressings.
Impressive lineup and an equally impressive price.

How many bottles exactly is that? There isn't a pressings that often and don't know if the others have all been made every year.

Yes was this from a certain Adelaide auction house...

JamieBahrain wrote:I wish people would drink more Wendouree. Seems to be bought and on sold, far more so than drunk.

Even here on auswine, amongst aficionados, not much seems to be consumed. Actually, very little premium wine seems to be consumed ?

JamieBahrain wrote:Actually, very little premium wine seems to be consumed ?

JamieBahrain wrote:I liked the winestar forum though ultra-high end consumption seemed to get a little fictitious on occasion. I'll leave it at that. Certainly from what I deduced from moving in some circles a little photographic evidence would have been more convincing.

Your probably right, a lot of high end stuff may not get mentioned here. I don't mention unless Piedmont mainly for my own reference and time constraints.

Scotty vino wrote:

JamieBahrain wrote:I wish people would drink more Wendouree. Seems to be bought and on sold, far more so than drunk.

Even here on auswine, amongst aficionados, not much seems to be consumed. Actually, very little premium wine seems to be consumed ?

Speaking for myself I've only been on the Wendouree Mailer since the 09 vintage.

Scotty vino wrote:

JamieBahrain wrote:I wish people would drink more Wendouree. Seems to be bought and on sold, far more so than drunk.

Even here on auswine, amongst aficionados, not much seems to be consumed. Actually, very little premium wine seems to be consumed ?

Speaking for myself I've only been on the Wendouree Mailer since the 09 vintage.
For the that resaon I haven't touched any of my Wendouree except a 2011 Shiraz which was consumed at the most recent Wendouree Offline in Adelaide. I liked it. It didn't blow my socks off. Compared to the 90's stuff it didn't really compare.
I'd certainly consume more if I had a far reaching and deeper collection like some of you other folks (hi Craig and Jamie) but I've resigned myself to keeping them for at least 10 years before taking them seriously. The Mid 90's cabs and cab/malbecs that I have tried have been really enjoyable and dragged my palate towards a more structured and refined style. Notable mentions to the 94 cab and the 96 Cab/mal.
These sent my socks flying across the room. Amazing stuff.

I was thinking of dabbling in the auction Wendourees for some mid 90's gear and I still might but i'm in no rush.
What puts me off are corked examples such as Marios 98 Shiraz/mataro(?) presented at the most recent Adelaide Offline.

If i could back the Delorean out and go back to the early 90's I'd be going very long on 90's Wendourees and there'd be a lot more activity in the consumption thread

JamieBahrain wrote:I liked the winestar forum though ultra-high end consumption seemed to get a little fictitious on occasion. I'll leave it at that. Certainly from what I deduced from moving in some circles a little photographic evidence would have been more convincing.

Your probably right, a lot of high end stuff may not get mentioned here. I don't mention unless Piedmont mainly for my own reference and time constraints.

phillisc wrote: ...I only lasted 200 posts over there, too many condescending arse wipes, "Jeez...you like Metala, you' re in the wrong aisle mate'.

rooman wrote:Jamie I went to a few of the high end dinners and some people were amazingly generous turning up with really good vintages of Latours and Margaux etc, sadly no DRC but that was just bad luck on my behalf. The trouble was my cellar just wasn’t operating at the ultra high end.

One members cellar was reputedly worth over $1m. If you met him, you would have realised it wasn’t all bluff and bluster. Really humble guy in finance (not the one in Singapore) and ridiculously generous even by auswine standards. He just had a total addiction to collecting and kindly sharing. Some people here may know who I mean. In the end however it shrink to a dozen top end drinkers.

JamieBahrain wrote:
Hi Rooman

I'm not doubting the veracity of the events. Being in Hong Kong where the cellars are eye-watering and people are happy to show them off, I wasn't in awe of what went on by a small scale comparison either. My friend's 17 year old son and his mates, who go back to Australian boarding schools in their family private jets, were drinking DRC at a local restaurant last month. Not even of drinking age and drinking 30K a bottle wines. Stupid, unimpressive and probably one of the nicer things of getting older is I know what I like to drink and I value it.

Definitely, I felt a few characters were brandishing wine experiences about that didn't happen. There were a few clear instances and I recall having just started my own journey in a wine region and a few folks all of a sudden had drunk all the greats from there ( never been mentioned prior and we all were following each other's journeys with weekly reports ). I guess one -upmanship can make some people deludingly warm and fuzzy?

A one million dollar Aussie cellar is worth about 500K abroad? With all the local taxes and wine inflation ? Unless it's a million dollars worth of Wendouree. I reckon that could be sold for more abroad.

rooman wrote:

JamieBahrain wrote:
Hi Rooman

I'm not doubting the veracity of the events. Being in Hong Kong where the cellars are eye-watering and people are happy to show them off, I wasn't in awe of what went on by a small scale comparison either. My friend's 17 year old son and his mates, who go back to Australian boarding schools in their family private jets, were drinking DRC at a local restaurant last month. Not even of drinking age and drinking 30K a bottle wines. Stupid, unimpressive and probably one of the nicer things of getting older is I know what I like to drink and I value it.

Definitely, I felt a few characters were brandishing wine experiences about that didn't happen. There were a few clear instances and I recall having just started my own journey in a wine region and a few folks all of a sudden had drunk all the greats from there ( never been mentioned prior and we all were following each other's journeys with weekly reports ). I guess one -upmanship can make some people deludingly warm and fuzzy?

A one million dollar Aussie cellar is worth about 500K abroad? With all the local taxes and wine inflation ? Unless it's a million dollars worth of Wendouree. I reckon that could be sold for more abroad.

Jamie

As Tom Petty used to say: "Oh to be king for a day". The point being I like the current forum as the wines people taste and discuss cover the full spectrum and so far we have resisted the rot that set in with Winestar where only a few people discussed extremely expensive and for many unattainable wines. Probably the best forum I have seen due primarily to its location is the UK WIne Pages. Because they are UK based like HK they drink amazing wines which are nevertheless affordable by their standards. I know we now have serious thread drift but taxes and import duties just kill the top end in Aus. I looked up a wine recently which I read about in Decanter. Local price was $A300 I then checked the US price as I am back in the US at Xmas - $A95. Its one reason I just have to cry when I follow your discussions around Barolo and Michel with Burgundies. Our taxes just take these wines for so many of us.

Mark

michel wrote:

rooman wrote:

Jamie

As Tom Petty used to say: "Oh to be king for a day". The point being I like the current forum as the wines people taste and discuss cover the full spectrum and so far we have resisted the rot that set in with Winestar where only a few people discussed extremely expensive and for many unattainable wines. Probably the best forum I have seen due primarily to its location is the UK WIne Pages. Because they are UK based like HK they drink amazing wines which are nevertheless affordable by their standards. I know we now have serious thread drift but taxes and import duties just kill the top end in Aus. I looked up a wine recently which I read about in Decanter. Local price was $A300 I then checked the US price as I am back in the US at Xmas - $A95. Its one reason I just have to cry when I follow your discussions around Barolo and Michel with Burgundies. Our taxes just take these wines for so many of us.

Mark

I will save you some tissues and not post for a while

rooman wrote:

michel wrote:

rooman wrote:

Jamie

As Tom Petty used to say: "Oh to be king for a day". The point being I like the current forum as the wines people taste and discuss cover the full spectrum and so far we have resisted the rot that set in with Winestar where only a few people discussed extremely expensive and for many unattainable wines. Probably the best forum I have seen due primarily to its location is the UK WIne Pages. Because they are UK based like HK they drink amazing wines which are nevertheless affordable by their standards. I know we now have serious thread drift but taxes and import duties just kill the top end in Aus. I looked up a wine recently which I read about in Decanter. Local price was $A300 I then checked the US price as I am back in the US at Xmas - $A95. Its one reason I just have to cry when I follow your discussions around Barolo and Michel with Burgundies. Our taxes just take these wines for so many of us.

Mark

I will save you some tissues and not post for a while

Michel

I would rather have some of your burgundy. Actually I have been invited to a massive burgundy tasting this week. So i can post on really expensive wines for once

michel wrote: Post notes if you’re keen
I rarely post my wine experiences
The moment the times are better
Last week was a snapshot of GC Chambolle-Musigny...

Wizz wrote:

michel wrote: Post notes if you’re keen
I rarely post my wine experiences
The moment the times are better
Last week was a snapshot of GC Chambolle-Musigny...

Same. I'm finding that the wine drinking experiences are more about the moment and the people than about the trophy hunting (and publishing). Petrus and Eiswein one week, Canadian Pinot and Greek Xynomavro the next.

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michel wrote:Consider this thread officially hijacked!

JamieBahrain wrote:

michel wrote:Consider this thread officially hijacked!

What a pity !

But now it's the I'm too cool to post notes thread.


Here goes-

This week DOMAINE MEO-CAMUZET & DOMAINE SYLVAIN CATHIARD vertical and a upcoming 1996 Bordeaux First Growth and friends horizontal.

I refuse to take notes too !

JamieBahrain wrote:I liked the winestar forum though ultra-high end consumption seemed to get a little fictitious on occasion. I'll leave it at that. Certainly from what I deduced from moving in some circles a little photographic evidence would have been more convincing.

Your probably right, a lot of high end stuff may not get mentioned here. I don't mention unless Piedmont mainly for my own reference and time constraints.