Australia vs France - Terror or Terrior?

El Josho · Post by **El Josho** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:12 pm

Team,

I'm off to Provence on the weekend, and am being hosted by a bloke in the Wine trade.

Good-natured challenges along the lines of 'Our Reds vs Yours' have been issued by the Old World party and so I have to provide one Australian Northern Rhone style, one Southern Rhone style and one Burgundy that can expected to hold quarter and give a good show. For reference, we're keeping it simple with a per bottle cap of Ã‚Â£30.

I have a few ideas already, but would like to know your thoughts on what you would include.

Cheers,

El Josho

monghead · Post by **monghead** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:48 pm

Now, is a northern Rhone style an SV, and a southern Rhone a GSM or vice versa???

If so, suggestions:

SV- Clonakilla

GSM- Teusner Avatar, Charles Melton Nine Popes, others will say Torbreck Steading

Burgundy- Wantirna, Epis, Bass Philip

Bordeaux- Moss Wood, Cullen

Cheers,

Monghead.

Loztralia · Post by **Loztralia** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:58 pm

Tight on the price, but could you squeeze a Jack Mann into the bordeaux category?

griff · Post by **griff** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:14 am

If you want pure Australia then the Peter Lehmann eight songs 2004. If a rhone style then perhaps the Clonakilla O'Riada Shiraz.

Southern Rhone I would go with the Spinifex Papillon 06, John Duval Plexus, Teusner Avatar as monghead suggested. An old d'arry original would be a nice ringer

If grenache only then the Samuel Gorge is an absolute cracker that would be the one to beat.

No idea about pinot. I think the Hoddles 08 that I am drinking right now would be a good ringer as value-wise France would be wetting themselves. Otherwise maybe the Savaterre or a Kooyong Haven.

No Bordeaux style needed? No sweeties either?

cheers

Carl

Rawshack · Post by **Rawshack** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:38 am

Hmm...

For the Bordeaux I'd look at something from Coonawarra like a Parker or a Majella

Burgundy - Williams Crossing Pinot; made by Curly Flat in Macendon, you'll get a McDonalds Cheeseburger in the change

Rhone... Well, the worlds your oyster here, you can go either the Shiraz/Viogner route, or the GSM. Not sure of the price, but Charlie Meltons Nine Popes would be an obvious choice. Otherwise how about a Turners Crossing Shiraz/Viogner from Bendigo; Varietal and regional qualities in that, with change from $30

You could of course go down the white route too...

JF · Post by JF » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:59 am

I think the limit is 30 quid not 30 dollars.

rooman · Post by **rooman** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:09 pm

SV- Clonakilla or for straight version one of the Brokenwood Graveyards

GSM- Charles Melton Nine Popes, (they have the oldest track record)

Burgundy- Main Ridge Half Acre or Savaterre

Bordeaux- Moss Wood,

monghead · Post by **monghead** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:04 pm

rooman wrote:Burgundy- Main Ridge Half Acre

Nice one, forgot about them. Would definitely second that.

Julio G · Post by **Julio G** » Fri May 01, 2009 6:24 am

rhone blend - I would go for a d'Arenberg Ironstone Pressings

JamieH · Post by **JamieH** » Fri May 01, 2009 7:21 am

don't like your chances of finding one but i concur with the clonakilla sv call, otherwise henschke mt edelstone, seppelt st peters or bests bin 0 (the white labeled one) shiraz. southern torbreck the steading, john duval plexus, nine popes. burgundy is of course a minefield, do you know what your competeing againest??? (my spelling is terrible sorry).

Jamie

El Josho · Post by **El Josho** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:14 pm

Thanks all. In the end time and availability got away from me, so I went for a Dead Arm, Schild Estate Barossa GSM and Ten Minutes by Tractor 10X Pinot.

I shall report back on my Gallic friend's contribution to the debate.