Rose - Preferred Styles....

mattECN · Post by **mattECN** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:08 pm

Coming into the summer months (In Adelaide anyway) Rose is a style of wine I like for the warmer days/nights. Personally, I like Pinot based Rose, slightly drier than sweet. I have seen a Nebbiolo derived Rose recently and another from Shiraz with Riesling pressings that was very good. What are some of people's favourites or preferences for this style?

griff · Post by **griff** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:11 pm

Bass Phillip Pinot rose. One of his best wines and by far the cheapest.

Had a nice Cabernet Franc rose from Redgate recently.

As you may tell, we prefer the drier savory styles here as well although Noon's rose while slightly hot has superb flavour.

cheers

Carl

rednut · Post by **rednut** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:15 am

Just stocked up on the following drops ready for a hot dry summer....
Turkey Flat 2006 Rose
Rockford's Alicante Rose
Chateau Tanunda Rose
All exceptional in their own unique ways.. :wink:

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:28 am

I prefer a more savoury style and shy away from the lollywater end of the spectrum....I'm a fan of the Fransz Rose and am also enjoying the new Tuesner Salsa Rose 2007.

GrahamB · Post by **GrahamB** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:43 am

DaveB wrote:I prefer a more savoury style and shy away from the lollywater end of the spectrum....I'm a fan of the Fransz Rose and am also enjoying the new Tuesner Salsa Rose 2007.

Tried the Teusner Salsa Rose and all of their wines at a trade tasting yesterday. Also some magnums of early Joshua, Avatar and Albert. Also interesting when I googled "Teusner" and "Tuesner". While Teusner is the correct spelling, there are many references to the latter spelling.

Met Kym's lovely new wife Vanessa as well. It is always good to meet all the people behind a wine.

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:58 am

Yes...I'm always spelling it wrong...probably a sign to slow down when I'm typing. :lol:

I had a look at some magnums of back vintage Teusner stuff a couple of weeks back plus an OV Grenache...great looking wines. Also had a look at a pretty flash straight mataro out of tank the day it was to be bottled.

Ness is a lovely girl...Kym's a lucky bloke

winetastic · Post by **winetastic** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:02 am

Turkley Flat
Charles Melton
Yering Station ED

The first two finishing dry but fruit driven, the latter more savory and subtle

GrahamB · Post by **GrahamB** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:05 am

DaveB wrote:Yes...I'm always spelling it wrong...probably a sign to slow down when I'm typing.
I had a look at some magnums of back vintage Teusner stuff a couple of weeks back plus an OV Grenache...great looking wines. Also had a look at a pretty flash straight mataro out of tank the day it was to be bottled.

Ness is a lovely girl...Kym's a lucky bloke

Agree on all counts. Vanessa adds a welcome input to the Barossa gene pool. A barossa girl I was speaking to recently said "The first three boys I kissed turned out to be cousins."

They had the Grenache and some tank samples of the mataro there as well yesterday.

John Fiola · Post by **John Fiola** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:37 am

A favourite of mine is from Alois Laegeder in the Alto Aldige region of Italy. It is a rose from Lagrein (an indigenous vareital). Dry, but with Lots of fruit and medium to full bodied. A great summer wine for steaks (or almost anything else).

Cheers,
John

tpang · Post by **tpang** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:09 pm

The David Franz Rose is great for a not-too-sweet rose. The Teusner is also good stuff.

If tipping on the sweeter side of pours, Clancy Fuller have a fantastic rose 'Two Dickie Birds' and the Tin Shed 'All Day' rose is nice too.

GrahamB · Post by **GrahamB** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:13 pm

Gibson's Loose End rosÃƒÂ¨
Clancy Fuller rosÃƒÂ¨

Gavin Trott · Post by **Gavin Trott** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:18 pm

DaveB wrote:I prefer a more savoury style and shy away from the lollywater end of the spectrum....I'm a fan of the Fransz Rose and am also enjoying the new Tuesner Salsa Rose 2007.

Me too, bone dry and savoury.

Agree re the Franz and the Tuesner, like the Castagna (in some vintages)

n4sir · Post by **n4sir** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:22 pm

Turkey Flat & Charles Melton have been my two benchmarks for many years. Rockford's Alicante is also usually around the mark too.

Cheers,
Ian

griff · Post by **griff** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:23 pm

I forgot to mention the Arrivo Rose. That was nice (from sangiovese grapes)

cheers

Carl

Dave Dewhurst · Post by **Dave Dewhurst** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:04 am

Arid, savoury - rules out all Aussie stuff :twisted:

!!

French or more recently good value Spanish stuff.

Cheers

Dave

Adair · Post by **Adair** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:18 am

* Yep, bone dry, no even inklings of lolly-water for me.
* Not Grenache based, preferrably Pinot.
* Yering Station ED can be good. Bass Phillip absolutely, but there are many good and bad ones out there from unheralded wineries. It seems to be a little world of discovery for most wineries and consumers (like myself) given the late resurgance of this market. I tend to shy away from the bright pink-red wines, when the bottle allows - salmon and even a hint of brown is fine.
* However, rosÃƒÂ© Champagnes and Aussie sparklers are the Queens of Summer for me. The Taltarni TachÃƒÂ© is the best value I have found.

Believe it or not, I am drinking a rosÃƒÂ© now. Philip Shaw's FWIW - great structure, dry finish, but the flavour is a little confected for me to buy another bottle.

Adair

Adair · Post by **Adair** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:21 am

Dave Dewhurst wrote:Arid, savoury - rules out all Aussie stuff !!
French or more recently good value Spanish stuff.
Cheers
Dave

I reckon you should try a bottle of the Bass Phillip before totally writing Oz off... actually, this is something I would have said about Pinot Noir and Australia 5 years ago!

Craig(NZ) · Post by **Craig(NZ)** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:47 am

bone dry and refreshing for me. unison rose, the puriri hills rose sit at front of mind for me at the mo.

i cant even stand the trophy winning esk valley rose :cry:

SueNZ · Post by **SueNZ** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:38 pm

Dry, for sure.
Brand new release from Marlborough is Auntsfield Pretty Horses Rose 2007, 100% Pinot Noir from a sloping vineyard dedicated to the production of this wine.

Also enjoyed the Gibbston Valley Blanc de Pinot Noir 2006 the other night - a year on from vintage and still crisp and fresh - and pretty dry too. Central Otago fruit. 100% Pinot Noir.

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:18 am

Tried the Crawford River Rose on the weekend....very nice indeed...

mattECN · Post by **mattECN** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:52 am

SueNZ wrote:
Also enjoyed the Gibbston Valley Blanc de Pinot Noir 2006 the other night - a year on from vintage and still crisp and fresh - and pretty dry too. Central Otago fruit. 100% Pinot Noir.

I tried the 2003 Gibbston Valley Pinot on the weekend, very impressed, was drinking very well.

On the weekend, a friend poured some glasses of sparkling, that I 'thought' looked like a sparkling rose, eager to try what it was, it was some strawberry tasting thing. with a hangover at the time, it made me feeling 100% worse.

07 Bremerton Rose was very good on the weekend, touch of residual sugar, but nice fruit and acidity.

craig loves shiraz · Post by **craig loves shiraz** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:53 pm

The Rockford's Alicante Bouche and the Charles Melton Rose of Virginia are two of my favourites. I did try a nice one from Murray St as well last year that went down pretty well too!

But stepping off the Rose's a little (But sticking with the "Summer" theme), Brown Brothers do two little gems for the Summer. Tarango & Dolvetto and Syrah. Serve both chilled. Tarango is pretty dry and a bit fuller than a rose. The Dolcetto and Syrah is a sweeter style.

Wayno · Post by **Wayno** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:00 pm

Tried the Alicante the other day. Wanted to love it, as I do every year (I love the label) but just couldn't cope with the sweetness, regardless of the context of drinking (hot days etc). I am a big fan of the more savoury styles... Vinea Marson do a lovely example. Well recommended.

Davo · Post by **Davo** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:26 am

Dave Dewhurst wrote:Arid, savoury - rules out all Aussie stuff !!

French or more recently good value Spanish stuff.

Cheers

Dave

Yep Banyuls for me, and Cotes de Provence were mostly pretty good as well, with some reasonable examples from the Cotes du Rhone. All a lot more drinkable than anything I have tried in Oz, even those on the more acidic end of the spectrum, and all great with food. At least I never came across anything remotely like lolly water.

Bick · Post by **Bick** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:54 am

Not the one I tried last night! - Villa Maria Private Bin Rose 07. Oh dear, I could barely drink it. My better half quite liked it, and its well reviewed but I thought it was insipid, characterless, watered down fruit juice. Shame, as I think the Private Bin villa's tend to be good value for money.

seanwines · Post by **seanwines** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:29 pm

In my fridge at the moment is a Turkey Flat, Charles Melton and Battle of Bosworth.
At times I also have the following- Langmeil, Woodstock and the WirraWirra.
I recently tried a bottle of ReillyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Barking Mad, I though it was ok at $13

I generally prefer the Grenache based wines, for me they have be dark with a little spice.

Daryl Douglas · Post by **Daryl Douglas** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:40 pm

Haven't drunk a lot of roses but have enjoyed the Turkey Flat in the past. I prefer whites to rose in summer.

daz

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:08 pm

Really like the Torbreck Saignee, although it's difficult to get hold of. The newest vintage is supposed to be released this month as I understand. It's as dry as dry can be... very different from the (below) average lolly water RosÃƒÂ© drops.