VP's versus all other fortifieds.Matt@5453 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:09 pmAussie fortifieds are coming a thing of the past, from my perspective it is more consumer demand. I know some winemakers that would love to have a crack, but the owners are not interested. Lucky in the CV we have a few producers still making some good wines e.g., Sevenhill Cellars, and Pauletts have a lovely Muscat. At the recent Clare Valley wine show we tried a 1975 Jim Barry Tawny Port, it was nothing short of amazing, length to burn, a real treat to try and savour it.WineRick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:11 amRegading VP's, to me, the question is ... Who does the ageing, or whose willing to do the ageing? And who has the cellaring conditions needed for the lengthy period to bring them to their peak?Rossco wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:15 pm
We love our fortified's and try as many as well can.
A recent trip to Rutherglen a couple of weekends ago was a bit eye opener however.
Some not producing a VP anymore at all.... While others producing what can only described as very poor examples, from what we deduced were most likely excess grapes or unwanted/unsold grapes...... As an example 100% tourega VP ..... Hard pass.
While I bought over 3 Doz wines on this trip, not one single VP, and I was planning to really stock up.
Lots of Muscats and topaque's of amazing quality, but no VP. Very easy to see where they are putting all their efforts
On a very interesting side note, Pfeiffer table reds were of a such high standard I was blown away. Particularly the gamay, Cabernet and Merlot.
Its a wine style all about time - I've often compared it to a sort of vinous superannuation. Put a few bottles aside every 3 - 6 months, and after 5 - 10 years you'll have quite a collection.
But, as mentioned above, there aren't many winemakers bothering anymore. How does a young winemaker know if he/she is working in the right direction if it takes 15 - 20 years for their efforts to mature.
Final question - whose drinking them these days?
I have quite a few older ports, tawny and vintage at home. Every winter I look at them and think I should open one, but seem to 'neglect' them. I have not bought a bottle for many years now. The Jim Barry i tried reminded me I need to open a bottle of my own at some point soon.
It's much cheaper to set up and maintain a barrel maturing solera of a fortified. Draw off a little each year to bottle and release, and every now and then make some new fortified to add to the the solera.
VP's need much better fruit, possibly more expensive spirit, to be bottled after 12 - 18 months (big cost) and cellared for ten years+, or sell young and plead with buyer to cellar for that time.
But put simply, there is no money in either fortifieds now.