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Shiraz, Shiraz/Malbec Shiraz/Mataro, Cabernet, Cab/Malbec, Malbec and Pressings.We have a remarkable parcel of Wendouree wines on offer. Every red wine made by Wendouree, between and including 1998 and 2016, is represented. You get one bottle of each wine for $14k
How many bottles exactly is that? There isn't a pressings that often and don't know if the others have all been made every year... but it looks about $120/bottlecrusty2 wrote:While not a note I did receive this offer todayShiraz, Shiraz/Malbec Shiraz/Mataro, Cabernet, Cab/Malbec, Malbec and Pressings.We have a remarkable parcel of Wendouree wines on offer. Every red wine made by Wendouree, between and including 1998 and 2016, is represented. You get one bottle of each wine for $14k
Impressive lineup and an equally impressive price.
Yes was this from a certain Adelaide auction house...several hundred bottles on offer...and as an aside, reckon i have about half of themcrusty2 wrote:While not a note I did receive this offer todayShiraz, Shiraz/Malbec Shiraz/Mataro, Cabernet, Cab/Malbec, Malbec and Pressings.We have a remarkable parcel of Wendouree wines on offer. Every red wine made by Wendouree, between and including 1998 and 2016, is represented. You get one bottle of each wine for $14k
Impressive lineup and an equally impressive price.
How many bottles exactly is that? There isn't a pressings that often and don't know if the others have all been made every year.
This offer was through a small retailer, mainly on-line, based in the Barossa. A total of 97 bottles in the set.Yes was this from a certain Adelaide auction house...
Speaking for myself I've only been on the Wendouree Mailer since the 09 vintage.JamieBahrain wrote:I wish people would drink more Wendouree. Seems to be bought and on sold, far more so than drunk.
Even here on auswine, amongst aficionados, not much seems to be consumed. Actually, very little premium wine seems to be consumed ?
Interesting point. I believe a fair amount of top end wine does get consumed by people on the forum but unless it happens at offlines open to everyone, it becomes a little difficult to post and discuss where only the few are invited. Obviously people can and do regularly post their experience with top wines but the risk for a forum like this is that it becomes elitist and people drop away and stop posting.JamieBahrain wrote:Actually, very little premium wine seems to be consumed ?
Fictitious with hand firmly planted...would have to be earning a billion a year and sleeping with the CEOs wife...I only lasted 200 posts over there, too many condescending arse wipes, "Jeez...you like Metala, you' re in the wrong aisle mate'JamieBahrain wrote:I liked the winestar forum though ultra-high end consumption seemed to get a little fictitious on occasion. I'll leave it at that. Certainly from what I deduced from moving in some circles a little photographic evidence would have been more convincing.
Your probably right, a lot of high end stuff may not get mentioned here. I don't mention unless Piedmont mainly for my own reference and time constraints.
Likewise, well 2010 for me but same reason.Scotty vino wrote:Speaking for myself I've only been on the Wendouree Mailer since the 09 vintage.JamieBahrain wrote:I wish people would drink more Wendouree. Seems to be bought and on sold, far more so than drunk.
Even here on auswine, amongst aficionados, not much seems to be consumed. Actually, very little premium wine seems to be consumed ?
Scotty, we will have plenty of opportunities to look at a few Wendouree's over the journey. I have half a mind to buy a few from a local Adelaide auction house who has some blends going back to early 90s. I have 25 years of straight Shiraz and Cab and all others from about 06 onwards, but prior to that lots of gaps in the blends going back 10 years or more.Scotty vino wrote:Speaking for myself I've only been on the Wendouree Mailer since the 09 vintage.JamieBahrain wrote:I wish people would drink more Wendouree. Seems to be bought and on sold, far more so than drunk.
Even here on auswine, amongst aficionados, not much seems to be consumed. Actually, very little premium wine seems to be consumed ?
For the that resaon I haven't touched any of my Wendouree except a 2011 Shiraz which was consumed at the most recent Wendouree Offline in Adelaide. I liked it. It didn't blow my socks off. Compared to the 90's stuff it didn't really compare.
I'd certainly consume more if I had a far reaching and deeper collection like some of you other folks (hi Craig and Jamie) but I've resigned myself to keeping them for at least 10 years before taking them seriously. The Mid 90's cabs and cab/malbecs that I have tried have been really enjoyable and dragged my palate towards a more structured and refined style. Notable mentions to the 94 cab and the 96 Cab/mal.
These sent my socks flying across the room. Amazing stuff.
I was thinking of dabbling in the auction Wendourees for some mid 90's gear and I still might but i'm in no rush.
What puts me off are corked examples such as Marios 98 Shiraz/mataro(?) presented at the most recent Adelaide Offline.
If i could back the Delorean out and go back to the early 90's I'd be going very long on 90's Wendourees and there'd be a lot more activity in the consumption thread
Jamie I went to a few of the high end dinners and some people were amazingly generous turning up with really good vintages of Latours and Margaux etc, sadly no DRC but that was just bad luck on my behalf. The trouble was my cellar just wasn’t operating at the ultra high end.JamieBahrain wrote:I liked the winestar forum though ultra-high end consumption seemed to get a little fictitious on occasion. I'll leave it at that. Certainly from what I deduced from moving in some circles a little photographic evidence would have been more convincing.
Your probably right, a lot of high end stuff may not get mentioned here. I don't mention unless Piedmont mainly for my own reference and time constraints.
Ahh, the Winestar forum ... yes, I remember it well. That was where someone called me a Collingwood supporter, as in "I didn't know there were Collingwood supporters in Canada". I really did have to look up what he meant. Then, when I called him up on it, he feigned ignorance, pretending not to know what it meant. In the same thread the same fellow insisted that Australia, at a time when Howard was PM, was a communist country, more communist than the People's Republic of China.phillisc wrote: ...I only lasted 200 posts over there, too many condescending arse wipes, "Jeez...you like Metala, you' re in the wrong aisle mate'.
Hi Roomanrooman wrote:Jamie I went to a few of the high end dinners and some people were amazingly generous turning up with really good vintages of Latours and Margaux etc, sadly no DRC but that was just bad luck on my behalf. The trouble was my cellar just wasn’t operating at the ultra high end.
One members cellar was reputedly worth over $1m. If you met him, you would have realised it wasn’t all bluff and bluster. Really humble guy in finance (not the one in Singapore) and ridiculously generous even by auswine standards. He just had a total addiction to collecting and kindly sharing. Some people here may know who I mean. In the end however it shrink to a dozen top end drinkers.
JamieJamieBahrain wrote:
Hi Rooman
I'm not doubting the veracity of the events. Being in Hong Kong where the cellars are eye-watering and people are happy to show them off, I wasn't in awe of what went on by a small scale comparison either. My friend's 17 year old son and his mates, who go back to Australian boarding schools in their family private jets, were drinking DRC at a local restaurant last month. Not even of drinking age and drinking 30K a bottle wines. Stupid, unimpressive and probably one of the nicer things of getting older is I know what I like to drink and I value it.
Definitely, I felt a few characters were brandishing wine experiences about that didn't happen. There were a few clear instances and I recall having just started my own journey in a wine region and a few folks all of a sudden had drunk all the greats from there ( never been mentioned prior and we all were following each other's journeys with weekly reports ). I guess one -upmanship can make some people deludingly warm and fuzzy?
A one million dollar Aussie cellar is worth about 500K abroad? With all the local taxes and wine inflation ? Unless it's a million dollars worth of Wendouree. I reckon that could be sold for more abroad.
I then checked the US price as I am back in the US at Xmas - $A95. Its one reason I just have to cry when I follow your discussions around Barolo and Michel with Burgundies. Our taxes just take these wines for so many of us. I will save you some tissues and not post for a whilerooman wrote:JamieJamieBahrain wrote:
Hi Rooman
I'm not doubting the veracity of the events. Being in Hong Kong where the cellars are eye-watering and people are happy to show them off, I wasn't in awe of what went on by a small scale comparison either. My friend's 17 year old son and his mates, who go back to Australian boarding schools in their family private jets, were drinking DRC at a local restaurant last month. Not even of drinking age and drinking 30K a bottle wines. Stupid, unimpressive and probably one of the nicer things of getting older is I know what I like to drink and I value it.
Definitely, I felt a few characters were brandishing wine experiences about that didn't happen. There were a few clear instances and I recall having just started my own journey in a wine region and a few folks all of a sudden had drunk all the greats from there ( never been mentioned prior and we all were following each other's journeys with weekly reports ). I guess one -upmanship can make some people deludingly warm and fuzzy?
A one million dollar Aussie cellar is worth about 500K abroad? With all the local taxes and wine inflation ? Unless it's a million dollars worth of Wendouree. I reckon that could be sold for more abroad.
As Tom Petty used to say: "Oh to be king for a day". The point being I like the current forum as the wines people taste and discuss cover the full spectrum and so far we have resisted the rot that set in with Winestar where only a few people discussed extremely expensive and for many unattainable wines. Probably the best forum I have seen due primarily to its location is the UK WIne Pages. Because they are UK based like HK they drink amazing wines which are nevertheless affordable by their standards. I know we now have serious thread drift but taxes and import duties just kill the top end in Aus. I looked up a wine recently which I read about in Decanter. Local price was $A300
Mark
Michelmichel wrote:I will save you some tissues and not post for a whilerooman wrote:
Jamie
As Tom Petty used to say: "Oh to be king for a day". The point being I like the current forum as the wines people taste and discuss cover the full spectrum and so far we have resisted the rot that set in with Winestar where only a few people discussed extremely expensive and for many unattainable wines. Probably the best forum I have seen due primarily to its location is the UK WIne Pages. Because they are UK based like HK they drink amazing wines which are nevertheless affordable by their standards. I know we now have serious thread drift but taxes and import duties just kill the top end in Aus. I looked up a wine recently which I read about in Decanter. Local price was $A300
Mark
Post notes if you’re keenrooman wrote:Michelmichel wrote:I will save you some tissues and not post for a whilerooman wrote:
Jamie
As Tom Petty used to say: "Oh to be king for a day". The point being I like the current forum as the wines people taste and discuss cover the full spectrum and so far we have resisted the rot that set in with Winestar where only a few people discussed extremely expensive and for many unattainable wines. Probably the best forum I have seen due primarily to its location is the UK WIne Pages. Because they are UK based like HK they drink amazing wines which are nevertheless affordable by their standards. I know we now have serious thread drift but taxes and import duties just kill the top end in Aus. I looked up a wine recently which I read about in Decanter. Local price was $A300
Mark
I would rather have some of your burgundy. Actually I have been invited to a massive burgundy tasting this week. So i can post on really expensive wines for once
Same. I'm finding that the wine drinking experiences are more about the moment and the people than about the trophy hunting (and publishing). Petrus and Eiswein one week, Canadian Pinot and Greek Xynomavro the next.michel wrote: Post notes if you’re keen
I rarely post my wine experiences
The moment the times are better
Last week was a snapshot of GC Chambolle-Musigny...
Yes Andrew I concurWizz wrote:Same. I'm finding that the wine drinking experiences are more about the moment and the people than about the trophy hunting (and publishing). Petrus and Eiswein one week, Canadian Pinot and Greek Xynomavro the next.michel wrote: Post notes if you’re keen
I rarely post my wine experiences
The moment the times are better
Last week was a snapshot of GC Chambolle-Musigny...
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What a pity !michel wrote:Consider this thread officially hijacked!
Sounds funJamieBahrain wrote:What a pity !michel wrote:Consider this thread officially hijacked!
But now it's the I'm too cool to post notes thread.
Here goes-
This week DOMAINE MEO-CAMUZET & DOMAINE SYLVAIN CATHIARD vertical and a upcoming 1996 Bordeaux First Growth and friends horizontal.
I refuse to take notes too !
Id post a photo of every bottle drunk but this forum is difficult to simply just upload a photo. It requries resizingJamieBahrain wrote:I liked the winestar forum though ultra-high end consumption seemed to get a little fictitious on occasion. I'll leave it at that. Certainly from what I deduced from moving in some circles a little photographic evidence would have been more convincing.
Your probably right, a lot of high end stuff may not get mentioned here. I don't mention unless Piedmont mainly for my own reference and time constraints.
